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for the motherboard either abit or asus...i prefer abit, but a lot people prefer asus. On the abit side, AI7 looks good (springdale based). I am not sure about your fan questions, since you said u won't be overclcoking...the heatsink + fan that come with the p4 retail package do an adequate job and ...

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look at the counter...whoa...a thousand views a second, at least

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can't add u to my list, hehe, u have to be an allience

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hehe, ok, i'll add u up phoenix

Vert, i'm sure it'll come

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they have good memory, but it's voltage hungry...it all depends on how good you rmotherboard's vdimm is.

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DigiJo wrote:to lazy to translate all, but i can tell you that the "article" is crap. he didnt test a real r420 / r423, he just interpolated the values from ati-promised tech-specs with a home made formula lol.

i already said that, read above

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Phoenix, what's your name on there so i could add you to ly list of friends?

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never mind, seems those results are not real, lol.

Apparently those are ust predictions based on the specs for all the cards.

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i am not gonna judge until it's final ;) I'm just gonna see if it pushes my system to its limits. ;) To be totally honest, i am not even that big of a fan of these games, i prefer science fiction MMORPGs like earth & beyond, but i a not complaining, if it's gonna be well done, i'm sure i can get...

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got my email today, downloading wow as i type this, 1 hour to go.

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http://www.rage3d.de/forum/ftopic597.html

(no altavista translators please)

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raptors have 5 year warranty and mine has had no issues at all for a year now...your supplier is selling DOA drives...don't blame it on the company making them.

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You need to decide if you will be overclocking or not. That makes all the difference. Personally, i think that price is still too high. Either add a little more and go with a high end ram, or get something cheaper and run it at 400MHz like korm was talking about. In any case, wait until teh reviews ...

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unfortunately they don't make 3500c2 anymore, sicne bh-5 was discontinued...that adata ram i was talking about was 105 per 512MB stick...but newegg saw it selling, and i think they raised the price a bit, it'll drop back down though. EBay has 3500c2 on sometimes, or you can buy it from a forum...it ...

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Woohoo, i just successfully moded mu PSU accroding to teh guide i posted above. Now the rails read: 3.3v > 3.34 5v > 5.14 12v > 12.11 under load....nice :)) will report in a few days to see if the overclocks have improved. EDIT 1: two instances of prime95 while playing ut2004 with maxed out settings...

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gonna do the PSU mods tomorrow....wish me luck ;)) http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=726156 my rails now read a little low... 3.3v = 3.23 5v = 4.89 12v = 11.74 the mod is pretty easy, i'll do it to see if my vdimm stops undervloting, the freaking thing is set at 2.8v, but reads 2.7...

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i can' stand having any application running in the backgroudn while i am gaming, heck, i can't stand having an extra service running when my pc boots up...most anti virus apps r bloated and real time protection takes a lot of system resources and affects games a lot, especially if you have a lower-e...

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another vote for AT..

omg, me and Krom agree on something

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whhich virus was it?

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Capm wrote:Theres nothing wrong with tomshardware.

haha, yeah, right...
u obviously haven't followed their review screw-ups.

Anyway, i don't know of any lists like that, i just ready about each individual thing separately, hehe

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The only thing that irks me is the minimum 480W power supply they say it needs. I'm not too up to date on power supplies these days, but that sounds really high. It's apparently been tested with 350W supplies without any issues. The thing to look out for is a hefty 12V rail but really, noone should...

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that is not high anymore...if you are getting a prescott and one of these ultras...550w minimum...and a quality one too

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whoa, imperssive

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ah jeez, don't post links to tomshardware here, lol...

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heh heh don't be saving on the hdd...i have the raptor in my main pc and i have a wd 120GB 8MB in my other pc, and i can feel the difference. Unless you are running raid 0 with those regular WDs, then the performance is gonna be similar...this might be an option too...for the price of raptor, u can ...

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499, actually

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Krom wrote:Yeah, after reading that, I would suggest a 550 watt supply just to keep a beast like that in check, I expect the offering from ATI will require about as much power.

probably

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Vindicator wrote:Color me impressed. Fully twice as fast as 9800XT in Halo at high res? Sign me up.

compare it to r420 when it comes out at the end if this month, not with xt, which was a 9800 pro refreshment

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now u know where, i posted all the needed links above...i can give you 4 more, just for videocards, lol

speaking of videocards, looks like 6800 ultra requires two separate power plugs and nvidia recommends a 480w psu to be used with it...ouuuch!

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r350 actually overlocks pretty well, even over xt speeds....u just don't have the temp monitoring, that's all.

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KompresZor wrote:good work Max

Thanx, this was a steal.

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fliptw wrote:would anyone have any info on when the r360 cores would've hit the retail channels?

umm, my guess is around the time actual XTs came out. Maybe a few weeks later, i don't have any concrete info on this.

But Sapphire and Asus 9800 Pro 256MB DDR1 are pretty much all based on XT pcb, core and ram.

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no other way, you have to physically remove the heatsink, be careful though. the benefit of flashing to an xt would be temp monitoring and a slight speed bump clock per clock. You can edit the xt bios to be clocked at the sme speeds as your current pro, but u'll get temp monitoring and maybe a speed...

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it seems live, but whenether it lags out, it goes to a prerecorder routine, where he wipes his sweat off.

but yeah, it's probably recorded, nobody would od taht 24/7, lol

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yeah, tbsc is good, but the sound processor used on catalina is a cheap envy chip from via..it is found on other sound cards, which are at elast twice less expensive. catalina is vry dissapointing, get a santa cruz or something else.

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Plague, sorry we hi-jacked your thread...

like i said, do your own research, u'll qucikly find out what you'll need and what are good choices.

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krom, wtf is wrong with you? u think flashing a bios is retarded? How about flashing a 9800 pro into Xt and getting a nice speed bump and temp monitoring...how about flashing to a herculese Xt bios from sapphire Xt bios, and getting another speed bump? How about flashing your videocard with a bios w...

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no, the most retarded thing would be advising to get a dvd burner isntead of a floppy, dumbass.. As for the memory controller, gee, lets figure out why amd was going with a ddr333 controller and right before the 1st release they bumped it up to the ddr400...oh yes, b/c latency is not everything...bu...

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the internal controller doesn't have to be used, iirc you can read some reports about that mushkin ram here: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=eedc588cbf53f0ec74530392133df170&threadid=66732 it won't overclock at all. And if he won't be overcloking, why would he go with such expensi...

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anyway, don't listen to krom, and don't listen to me, and do your own research:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/
http://www.ocforums.com
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/index.php?s=
http://www.hardforum.com/

i visit these 4 daily, and some others i'll post later

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