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And you would of preferred after Pearl Harbor we would of just waved our hankies and tried to coexist? Or when 9/11 happened we would of said it was our fault. How bleeding liberal. Ah yes, the US military's post-9/11 adventures, when we *checks notes* got mired in a country for two decades yet acc...

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"Palestinians" and "Hamas" are two entirely different groups of people The genocide is easier to swallow if you believe there are 2 million villains in Gaza. It's ironic that he mentioned 9/11, because that was motivated by the exact same kind of thinking that he's demonstrating...

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Did our response to Pearl Harbor justify the means? Our would you have preferred we did nothing It was a act of war. One of our military installations was targeted in an unprovoked attack and we declared war against Japan and fought against their military targets and soldiers , initially I might ad...

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The big question is at what point does Israel use the 90+ nukes they have and to prevent that will the US send in troops? Israel is now threatening to wipe Iran and Lebanon off the face of the earth. You can bet they won't be using tanks and soldiers to do it either. The countdown to WWIII just got...

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And once again, you just can't seem to see what a disaster Trump was for our country. The anti-China sentiment was mostly brought on by the Covid pandemic and right wing propaganda, but Trump stoked the fire and made it worse. Now WE are losing bright scientists back to China just like Russia, peop...

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I agree 100%. Its been repeated throughout human history and we never learn. People with the best of motives and intentions invariably turn into the very enemy they're against. The "End's Justify the Means" is the usual outcome. Its almost as if humans LIKE war as a solution they seem to f...

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That's not my position and I don't agree with it. I'm telling you that this is what I'm hearing from mostly right wing people, being used to justify their support for Israel's current military actions. Woodchip's posts also clearly indicate that's the conservative mindset right now. Why they support...

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And once again, you just can't seem to see what a disaster Trump was for our country. The anti-China sentiment was mostly brought on by the Covid pandemic and right wing propaganda, but Trump stoked the fire and made it worse. Now WE are losing bright scientists back to China just like Russia, peopl...

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We're losing scientists to China too. Thank you Trump and your "China Initiative ". Yep, Trump again.

https://www.cato.org/blog/abandoning-us ... s-go-china

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There has never been a better time to get people to try a different approach than the next year or so because Gaza is done if the ceasefire idiocy doesn’t win out although I’m not hopeful in that.As the rooting out of Hamas progresses it’s going to be extremely horrific. The battle over the narrati...

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You do remember the Jews gave the Palestinian's fair warning. Did Hamas give fair warning to the Jews? Did the Jews force the-Palestinians not to leave or did Hamas. As it looks The Jews are not going to cleanse, so we can expect this again 10 years from now. OK, where do you expect the Palestinian...

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Here's a question: What would likely happen if Israel tried to 'wipe clean' the entire Gaza strip (as suggested by a certain poster here). What would be the international response to this attempt at mass genocide? I think that depends on how much the other countries surrounding Israel react to a ma...

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SilverFJ, long time no see. Good to hear from you. Glad to have someone knowledgeable on the Middle East for once.

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Sounds like a hell of a better plan than what's been going on over and over since WWII. Since Israel did the demo, they could help rebuild people's homes and businesses as a sign of goodwill, and perhaps make long term friends with these neighbors. But, someone needs to put their foot down and tell ...

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First I asked the question, "how did the Israeli's miss this and the US". Of course you missed that. Then you should read a history of Gaza: https://www.britannica.com/place/Gaza-Strip/Blockade And then consider why Egypt and Jordan don't want the Palestinian's . After all the attacks by ...

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One would hope that aid and humanitarian agencies would get the money and use it to feed and house people. In practice, who knows?

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I was thinking defensively. But yeah, hitting a high speed missile with a laser beam might be a little difficult. Other than that, I have no clue what they want to use it for.

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So it get weirder, Biden gives 100 million in aid to the Palestinian people (read Hamas) with the caveat : “If Hamas diverts or steals the assistance, they will have demonstrated once again that they have no concern for the welfare of the Palestinian people, and it will end as a practical matter,” ...

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Does it matter at this point? Personally, I think it was Hamas who lobbed a failed rocket. But everyone in the Middle East who's not a Jew or an American, believes it was an Israeli air strike and that both Israel and the U.S. are evil civilian killers. Violent protests are breaking out in many Midd...

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We gave them that laser technology. I'm sure it's being used to try and shoot down Hamas rockets. If it's ever used offensively to kill, it's our fault.

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Which president attemped an insurrection in the deluded effort to stay in office AS AN AUTOCRAT? Trump. Which party's supporters have issued death threats against state secretaries of state, civil service and poll workers and have had armed militia members standing around polling places and ballot d...

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They went low because people stayed home during the pandemic and didn't drive or buy anything while Trump was in office. The world's supply chain crashed under Trump's watch too. Crude prices went back up because people and the markets went crazy after the pandemic was over. People hopped in their c...

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No, here's what happens, Trump cleans house i.e. replaces FBI, CIA, NSA and others with leadership that obey the law and not liberal schmucks that think they're a tool for a drooling idiot that can't climb stairs anymore. Your whole post outlines what the liberal groomers are doing right now and wh...

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Don't want to be this Jeep, do you? By the way, no people were in the Jeep as it rolled by on it's way down the slope. The driver taking the video must've seen it coming and stopped in time. However, a female passenger was ejected right before this video and is now paralyzed from the neck down. No, ...

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Well, since you didn't speculate, here's what's going to happen if Trump wins in 2024, I will. Once Trump gets back into office and is drunk on all that power, and you know he's tasted it and loves it like cocaine, he's going to go on a petty revenge vendetta of the likes we've never seen a leader o...

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Hmmm where have we seen that before? “If you want to know what Trump would evolve to if his revolutionaries had managed to plant him back on his throne in the White House, and somehow he was able to resume his presidency....just look at the Ayatollah! This is the same ★■◆●ing thing.” Will Robinson ...

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No, Trump is the Ayatolla of the ultra right. All those MAGA supporters and unregulated militias are his proxies, like Hamas. They worship him and will do his bidding with the same unquestioning religious ferver and loyalty that drives every religious Islamic terrorist in the world, hate of the &quo...

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How much hate does one have to harbor to stab a 6 year old boy 26 times, to death, and seriously wound his mother? Because they're Muslims. The poor father is heartbroken. You approve woody? You've pretty much sanctioned Israel bombing the crap out of Gaza, because they all voted for Hamas in the pa...

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The hatred and conflict over in that region is complex and old. Will must want some sort black and white "proof" that just isn't blatantly apparent. All these varied terror groups that hate Israel and the Jews are just proxies for nearly all the surrounding countries, like Syria, Iran, Ira...

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Israel and Saudi Arabia were on the verge of signing a peace deal which didn't include Iran. Now the Saudi's appear to want to scrap the deal and work with the Iranians. Coincidence? I don't believe in coincidence's where politics are concerned Frankly, I'm not surprised. As heinous as the attack w...

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Will, maybe Iran wasn't involved. It's a stretch to believe they were actually surprised by Hamas' mass attack since they've supported them in the past. Even the Biden Administration is "assuming" Iran is involved, also basing that viewpoint on Iran's support for Hamas in the past . If you...

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vision wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:09 pm No one likes Hamas. There will be no global Jihad. You need Xanax.

You were right.

https://www.voanews.com/a/us-sees-no-sp ... 09031.html

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Couldn't resist.

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woodchip wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:44 am I've said before, Trump needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.

He can't help himself. He thinks he's the smartest and most knowledgeable person alive and he wants everyone to know it. That's what a big ego does to a person who's not smart enough to keep his stupid trap shut.

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So do you want to apologize to Trump for not setting the bar for proof of responsibility anywhere near as high as you are suggesting it should be for Iran?!? Lol I think you are so deep in denial you don’t have a chance to see you are being overtly hypocritical and obtuse. Or maybe you are just a p...

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I reiterate, there is no "direct" connection anyone's been able to prove between the Hamas attack and Iran. However, there are plenty of indications and rhetoric that it's true. What more do you need? Iran coming out and claiming that: "Yeah, we're guilty. We gave Hamas training and w...

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Iran will no longer have access to that billions of dollars as of today.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/politics ... index.html

And Trump is now blathering absolute nonsense about this whole tragedy.

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So you want to take a single 8 year old speech you think provides Iran some cover and dismiss all the decades of evidence that definitively shows Irans direct manipulation of and building up and arming and training, etc the attacker on Israel?!? I think if Trump was funding the attack on the capita...

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I think Jews around the U.S. and Europe will be more worried about all the local Neo Nazis marching around yelling "They will not replace us!" and attacking synagogues than any Hamas bozos that managed to get across our border. We'll see what transpires.

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Watch this Will and try to imagine that you're an infatuated (in a full blown religious sense) follower of Trump and he and his subordinates are telling you that the election was stolen from them, the left is the evil one responsible, and to march to the Capital and fight like hell. So now tell me t...

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