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by Scanjo
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:44 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Unfortunately I can't offer any guidance. It's way above my pay grade. They were reverse engineering the ffb stuff. It's particular strings of code that must also be timed right. How they figure that out is way beyond me. :(
by Scanjo
Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:32 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hope dwindles, but it's never gone. The wheel wasn't even considered until one man took up the challenge. Just need someone else to follow in the footsteps now. ;)

I think it would be easier to just continue the current project than to attempt what you propose...
by Scanjo
Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Like 3 years later I'm reading again this thread. I have a Sidewinder Gamepad, does this code work on it or it's exclusive to the Joystick? If the latter, does an usb adapter exist for the gamepad? I'm assuming the gameport protocol is the same for the gamepad, is it not? As far as I know, no one h...
by Scanjo
Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hi guys I've built the adapter to reactivate my old Sidewinder FF Pro (FCC ID: C3KJ4), but I don't get any FF... Just quoting my own posting... Finally I've got it woking.. I've - Installed the com port drivers from teensy (don't know if that was one of the reasons or not) - tried several hex files...
by Scanjo
Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:01 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hi guys I hope you can help me.... I've built the adapter to reactivate my old Sidewinder FF Pro (FCC ID: C3KJ4), but I don't get any FF... Board is equiped with a teensy2 (no ++) All wires, connections and resistors checked, no short circuit, no dead wires or connections. Tested with the optional ...
by Scanjo
Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:56 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hi there, hopefully someone is still on this thread, since the last time something was posted about the reverse engineering of the FFB Wheel in which the name Cal was mentioned, is way back in 2014. It was actually Skoo who was doing most of the work on the wheel. But unfortunately I cannot find an...
by Scanjo
Mon May 11, 2015 3:19 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

So I added the, "optional", caps and got the light on solid and the motors are live, but still not quite perfect yet. Any advice? To be honest, you're not going to achieve perfection. There are no profiles, we can't adjust the force levels, it's a pain to switch between different sidewind...
by Scanjo
Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:47 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

There has been talk in the past about the possibility that the Force Feedback Pro which does not have a fan may have problems when using this adapter. I have been thinking about it for a while now and decided to try to get to the bottom of things. Is there actually a problem and if so, what can be d...
by Scanjo
Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:41 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Got it. Thanks!
by Scanjo
Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:38 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Just so I'm clear on what you have uploaded. I see one file is version r54. Do you know what version the other is? When I was looking on the google project site, it looked like the most recent source was version r52. I don't mess with the software so I may be mistaken. Also you mention disabling the...
by Scanjo
Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:50 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I solved my problem with the shift button (button 9) not working the same on USB as it does on gameport, Saturday after looking at the code for a couple hours and tinkering. I created an issue with the suggested code change here: https://code.google.com/p/adapt-ffb-joy/issues/detail?id=15 . I hope ...
by Scanjo
Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:15 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hey I'm new here. I've been navigating these threads for a couple of weeks. I just made a failed attempt to actually force a pci express cmedia sound cards midi port register on windows 8.1. I threw in the towel last evening. It looks like you guys have made some superior progress here. I see one o...
by Scanjo
Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:24 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I can now report a partial success. The issue was a LUFA USB2Serial .inf file that had the same USB ID (used the Arduino micro in a previous project). :oops: However, although I now get a device "LUFA Joystick wFFB" under "Other Devices", the Joystick gets recognized and is list...
by Scanjo
Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:29 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

sparx... If you look on page 4 of this topic you will see that "nosuchuser" tried what you are trying now and it looks like he had similar symptoms. He states that the LUFA device would show up in Device Manager and then disappear, but never show up in control panel. Unfortunately I don't ...
by Scanjo
Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:07 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Thank you for the clarification. I would like to use the FFB effects. WHat do you mean it is not optimized for gaming? How will it be affected. I really only use it in descent freespace and some other space sims. I'm not a gamer, I run flight sims from time to time, but from what I have read Grende...
by Scanjo
Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:39 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I ran joy.cpl but there was nothing there, no FFP device or any joystick for that matter. Also tried ForceTest.exe but it pops up with a message box telling me "No force feedback joystick detected!" and then followed by a second message: "Error Initializing DirectInput.". Unless...
by Scanjo
Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:25 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hello, I have a FFB Pro and am looking to make the adapter that you have described here. Which code should I use for it? The one for the 3Dpro or the other adaptffbjoy? Thank you! Either one will make it function as a joystick. The 3DP-Vert firmware (must use 3DPro32u4-10.hex ) will be more respons...
by Scanjo
Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:31 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Project with a tiny twist - Arduino Micro (ATmega32u4) As it happened, I had a spare Arduino Micro R3 board and an old MS Sidewinder FFP (the old version with a fan - Part No. 98755 Prod ID: 579-7511356). A bit of research on the Arduino Uno quickly revealed the pins to be used in order to achieve ...
by Scanjo
Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:11 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I'm not at all a circuit-designer, though, so that could hinder me if it's more fundamental and something there needs modification. Thanks again! You shouldn't have to change the hardware. These are digital joysticks so there are only a couple of wires sending signals back and forth. It's the firmw...
by Scanjo
Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:44 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Thanks DBB Ace, you're brilliant! Your response seems fast to me, and I don't intend for you work on this over the holidays if you don't want to. The firmware I used first was adaptffbjoy-r54.hex and now I'm on a self-compiled variant of r74 (with debugging disabled to improve my joystick's respons...
by Scanjo
Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:31 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I've built the circuit and programmed it with both the stable and then the latest (self-compiled) firmware. I think I must have done something wrong building the circuit, because the shift button acts as a separate button and doesn't double each other button's functionality. I doubt this is normal ...
by Scanjo
Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:46 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I understand. Well: I'll happily take them, then, as per form confirmation. Forgot to mention firmware: Make them FFP please, but if you don't fancy it: No worries. I have flashed 20 hex files myself through the Teensy tool, so I should be fine. Good news! Thank you! I always load firmware on the T...
by Scanjo
Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:18 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hi there Scott! I tried to find out from skimming through this thread but am still not sure. So: This adapter actually does the precision pro FFB as well as 3D PRO, right? I'd be in for 2-20 - I am soldering the 3D pro ones by hand for years - mostly for the german / european Descent community - bu...
by Scanjo
Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:41 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I have enough parts ordered to make 100 boards. 90 are spoken for right now. Get your request in ASAP as I don't know when or IF there will be a run 3.
by Scanjo
Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:37 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I'm preparing for a second production run. Parts are ordered. Sample board is soldered up and tested. Sample is on it's way to a fellow who will be designing a 3D printed case for the version 2 board. I haven't got a solid price on the board yet but it should be about the same as last time. Around $...
by Scanjo
Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:35 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Glad you got it working. Nice compact design. I like it.
by Scanjo
Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:31 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Okay so it's been a little while so I'm sorry if this has already been covered but I'm trying to get my sidewinder FFB wheel working with the prototype wheel firmware. If there's no force feedback I'm okay with that. Does the teensy need to wired differently? I have it wired for the FFB pro joystic...
by Scanjo
Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:41 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Now I still have some questions about the firmware. Am I correct in thinking that the adaptffbjoy-r54.hex is basically the same as the 3DPro32u4-10.hex firmware but with FFB support and 4 extra trim pots/axes? Ok...How do I explain this without being confusing... They are similar but have big diffe...
by Scanjo
Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:22 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Thanks for the answer. That's good news as a Teensy 2.0 is already on the way. I thought I read in the other thread that someone got it working on linux so I'm quite confident it should. I read that the force feedback is send through midi ports and that the protocol is mostly reverse engineered, so...
by Scanjo
Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:57 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hi guys, I just dusted off my old Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro and got here with a search to get it working with USB. It seems that the adapt-ffb-joy project is only meant for windows, but I'm using linux. I know sidewinder support is built into the linux kernel , but I can't seem to find out if i...
by Scanjo
Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:21 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Been keeping hold of my Sidewinder Force Feedback Wheel for a good few years now and finally happened upon this thread. Looks like there has been some great work in trying to get these classic controllers back up and running. Are there any updates from the developers as to progress? Thanks everyone...
by Scanjo
Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:22 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 918464

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

Hello everyone. I'm new here… That's assuming that what I want to do is possible. What I have is a Mac Pro that has one dedicated HDD running an installation of XP and an installation of Win7, the former for old(er) games and the latter for new(er) ones. There won't be any problem with the OSes rec...
by Scanjo
Tue May 20, 2014 10:19 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

papounet2 wrote:Hi,

I am in dire need of such an adapter .
I tried to build my own but could not source a db15 in-line connector.

Please help

nicolas
I'd send you a DB-15 but all I have are right angle circuit board mount, which won't work on a breadboard... Sorry.
by Scanjo
Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:37 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 918464

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

I'll leave you in the much more capable hands of Grendel. He designed the adapter so he knows it inside out and backwards. I already made my one mistake I'm allowed with the capacitor value...ok...maybe I'm not allowed any. Grrr. Sorry. Grendel with help you if anyone can. Good luck. [edit] Wait! I ...
by Scanjo
Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:41 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 918464

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

i've checked the connections and they seem to match up, what I notice now is that the caps I'm using is rated for 50V and that the caps the text file on the google page is linking to caps rated for 500V could this cause problems? oh and thanks for really great answers, I'll see if i can find a bett...
by Scanjo
Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:26 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 918464

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

Unfortunately the quality of the pics is not good enough for me to double check the connections. Maybe my old eyes don't help... ;) If you have checked once again to be sure there are no problems in the wiring, it could be a bad or wrong size capacitor. I remember reading another post where some bad...
by Scanjo
Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:32 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 918464

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

I have some serious problems with this. The joystick is recognized by windows but most of the buttons won't work, and worst of all, the axis movement is jittery and inprecise, it does not register at all like it should. I want to get this sorted but i dont know att all where to start. We need a lit...
by Scanjo
Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:47 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

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by Scanjo
Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:03 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 918464

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

Your computer won't recognize the Teensy alone or on the circuit. You need to have a joystick plugged in for it to be recognized. The hexfile is to recognize an HID (Human Interface Device). That's the joystick, not the Teensy. If there is an error on your board you built, then it's not going to wor...
by Scanjo
Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:38 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1041134

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

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