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by Birdseye
Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:18 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest
Replies: 187
Views: 13737

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what was this guy thinking.. taking a gun into a debate? what does he expect to happen? I'm surpised he didn't get swarmed by the secret service. <snip> But, out of a good ole sence of self preservation, why would anyone in his right mind make a point of visibly carrying a firearm near the Presiden...
by Birdseye
Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:52 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Democrats are working hard to improve the health care bill..
Replies: 143
Views: 8189

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dont get me wrong I wasnt accusing. I was just pointing out the Hypocracy of those that claim it is only one side thats getting rich off this issue Yea, the stereotype that republicans are the ones who get rich in office is just as full of crap as the stereotype that democrats are the ones who care...
by Birdseye
Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:30 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Is the Joker really black?!?
Replies: 42
Views: 2845

ya, not too surprising if what you say is correct. Just some guy who wanted to see what happened! I don't think of some deeper meaning here, its just a great firestarter ;)
by Birdseye
Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:24 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Is the Joker really black?!?
Replies: 42
Views: 2845

My personal opinion is that the artist (whomever they were) were not trying to divorce their own interpretation from the work. You're right in saying that once an artwork is created, we are free to interpret it any way we want and that the artist/auteur's intended interpretation becomes one of many...
by Birdseye
Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:19 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest
Replies: 187
Views: 13737

people do things like this for their own pure pleasure and to get on the news
by Birdseye
Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:17 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Democrats are working hard to improve the health care bill..
Replies: 143
Views: 8189

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and here I thought it was only the republicans that profited from healthcare Consulting Firm Tied to White House Given Millions for Health Care Ad Campaign While lobbying analysts say the move to hire a White House-connected ad agency is logical, some Republicans are questioning whether White House...
by Birdseye
Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:13 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Iraq War - Go again?
Replies: 64
Views: 4286

you're making a series of jumps in what you're reading from Cheney and then assuming anyone who doesn't make those same jumps is either lying or stupid. No, no. What I meant is that Bush et al have to be either lying or stupid. (believed bad information that at the time I thought was bad) I can und...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:32 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Iraq War - Go again?
Replies: 64
Views: 4286

That somehow got shortened to \"there is a tie between Iraq and 9/11\" and repeated over and over again, mainly by Iraq war opponents who wanted to say \"the Bush administration is lying, Iraq wasn't behind 9/11\". IIRC you were one of those making that argument. (I believe the ...
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:50 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: network bias or good business???
Replies: 17
Views: 2078

nbc sells obama merchandise...
fox promotes bush....
partisan politics waged pointlessly...
dog bites man.
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:48 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: and the Government continues to stick it to us
Replies: 25
Views: 1435

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This wasn't part of the stimulus bill. Ya I know It was in addition to the stimulus bill. And if 4 out of 5 rebates are denied, then it's only effective because it's a cheat. I don't see any reason to get panties in a ruffle over an article, a premature scare. Obviously I of course agree it sucks i...
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:30 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Republicans and health reform
Replies: 37
Views: 2685

Hi bet, I haven't talked to you in awhile. I hope you've been doing well! I would like to engage in discussions with you, but it seems that you are posting a lot of short posts with links. A longer post, conglemerating information from multiple sources, is a much better thing for all of us to share ...
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:26 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: and the Government continues to stick it to us
Replies: 25
Views: 1435

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... yeah but you are basically complaining about the concept of government, not the program itself I'm going to call BS on that one. The concept of government doesn't have to include such a low level of efficiency and it doesn't need to be so compromised by the election process that we first must l...
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:47 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Is the Joker really black?!?
Replies: 42
Views: 2845

i think everyone in the thread is misunderstanding the point of art, basically holding up a mirror to see what our reaction is and to see what we discuss and do, our reactions are what it means
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:43 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: and the Government continues to stick it to us
Replies: 25
Views: 1435

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honestly there is no reason to complain about Cash for Clunkers. It's been the most stimulative of the government programs dollar for dollar in my opinion (a lot of this due to stock prices/consumer confidence, tough to measure). There was way, way worse crap in the multi hundred billion stimulus b...
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:25 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: and the Government continues to stick it to us
Replies: 25
Views: 1435

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not complaining is easy to say if your not the dealership that gets stuck with those cars. the dealership group I work for has 16 franchised. each one has taken in about 70 clunkers that's approx 1120 clunkers total at an average of $4000 per. that's $4,800.00 dollars. if the government is only pay...
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:15 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Is the Joker really black?!?
Replies: 42
Views: 2845

Well, to be fair the latter is more likely with some fierce conservative haters, but a lot of his bloatware programs aren't as obviously bad or bothersome to people as a multi trillion dollar war and dead bodies of innocent or soldiers. That's not to let Obama off the hook, I wish he would do a lot ...
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:11 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: and the Government continues to stick it to us
Replies: 25
Views: 1435

honestly there is no reason to complain about Cash for Clunkers. It's been the most stimulative of the government programs dollar for dollar in my opinion (a lot of this due to stock prices/consumer confidence, tough to measure). There was way, way worse crap in the multi hundred billion stimulus bi...
by Birdseye
Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:03 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Iraq War - Go again?
Replies: 64
Views: 4286

Good reply Will. I essentially agree, though I don't think Obama's economic angling is as harsh or negative as Bush's, but he is certainly leveraging his favorite agendas well in the same way, with both leveraging the circumstances of their presidency.
by Birdseye
Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:11 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Obama, Liar in chief
Replies: 16
Views: 1441

you are probably right! I did not read that. I apologize, perhaps I am making some assumptions, I'll pay more attention to your posts
by Birdseye
Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:02 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Are poverty and wealth choices?
Replies: 16
Views: 1266

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you can't black and white this issue, just like any issue poverty a choice for some? yes. homeless a choice for some? many admit so. this is in a lot of documentaries, not all its still their preference. When you say rich as a choice, you are assuming this person has equal opportunities and value-s...
by Birdseye
Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:56 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: H.R. 3200
Replies: 23
Views: 1703

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Dude. You posted a link from heritage.org, a site totally biased against anything a democrat does . Did you think you'd be reading or posting unbiased information at any point? Honestly I didn't even bother reading the content because it doesn't matter. Such polarized sources are terrible sources f...
by Birdseye
Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:51 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Is the Joker really black?!?
Replies: 42
Views: 2845

think the media has completely lost its mission and adopted a full time campaign staff mentality for the Obama administration. They are in denial since they shoved him down our throats now they feel the guilt of creating this mess and don't want to face his failures let alone report them. they did ...
by Birdseye
Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:47 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: The hypocrisy is surreal
Replies: 4
Views: 769

Will, Remember that it's not a 100% loss on the health care. Much of the reason some goods & services here can be cheaper is because of the cheaper labor we enjoy. So while we enjoy some items/services at lower prices than if a full citizen had done it, this is offset somewhat by the public serv...
by Birdseye
Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:36 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Obama, Liar in chief
Replies: 16
Views: 1441

well, i've voted for more republicans than democrats in my lifetime, so idk I guess I'm the least liberal liberal around here.

you're just used to me being anti-bush and anti-war and equating me to a garden variety liberal.
by Birdseye
Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:21 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Iraq War - Go again?
Replies: 64
Views: 4286

all these quotes I have seen before, and I believe were brought up in arguments a few years back. Democrats (and politicians in general) are liars, and like to play the current sentiments. None of those people would have voted to take Iraq over by force back then... even though they talked about wea...
by Birdseye
Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:33 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Obama, Liar in chief
Replies: 16
Views: 1441

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Spidey wrote:Birdseye…you are a little out of touch, I gave my party affiliation up years ago.

doesn't mean you can't be biased against party lines to some degree still. obama is no worse than bush, you are being very silly
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:42 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: H.R. 3200
Replies: 23
Views: 1703

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some information then - http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/bg2304.cfm At the very least, the creation of a national health insurance exchange as a platform for a public plan to compete against private health insurance would cut short state innovation in health insurance market reform and a...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:39 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: H.R. 3200
Replies: 23
Views: 1703

Economically in a theoretical ideal I agree with government healthcare in the same way the government should be able to safely monopolize (or allow a monopoly to exist) the water and electricity (basic needs we all need). Unfortunately our government will mostly lie, pilfer, and still from the taxes...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:36 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Obama, Liar in chief
Replies: 16
Views: 1441

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Gays already have that figured out. Check out the recent cover picture of the Advocate Magazine. Notice the little pink triangle they have him wearing with the Obama logo on it. Wasn't the pink triangle the symbol the Nazis used to mark homosexuals? http://www.advocate.com/current_cover_ektid100360...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:34 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: I wonder how Sarah Palin feels about this
Replies: 126
Views: 5679

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Foil wrote:Bet, Woody, Cuda: Come on, can't you discuss a topic without taking potshots at each other?

Didn't you get the memo? Discussing politics is all about proving the 'other side' 'wrong'
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:29 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Iraq War - Go again?
Replies: 64
Views: 4286

Will, it was not just the media that ran with the WMD angle. And even if Bush did give a speech where WMD was one item among a list, the BIG BIG thing that caused the war that GOT EVERYONE IN CONGRESS TO AGREE TO GO was the supposed PROOF of WMDs they had. Colin Powell went and used SEVERELY FLAWED ...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:22 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: if your code pink or Cindy Shehan, its ok,
Replies: 44
Views: 2479

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How times have changed. Remember back to the thrilling days of yesteryear, when G.W. Bush was in office. Rising above the din of political dissent comes Hillary's nails on chalk board voice saying: "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administrat...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:16 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: I wonder how Sarah Palin feels about this
Replies: 126
Views: 5679

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So let me get this straight. Palin resigns her job and gets vilified. Yet Hillary quits her Senate job and no big deal. Obama quits his senate job and no big deal. Am I missing something? I await now your arguments that Hillary and Obama quit to go on to bigger and better things or can we rephrase ...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:03 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Is the Joker really black?!?
Replies: 42
Views: 2845

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Curious that after the art spree in the last 8 years by the likes of Maplethorp, of Bush as a Nazis and the Madonna covered in elephant dung, the left is finally now noticing bad taste in art. do you think the Obama Joker posters are bad art? i think regardless of what you believe its great art, i ...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:57 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Are poverty and wealth choices?
Replies: 16
Views: 1266

you can't black and white this issue, just like any issue poverty a choice for some? yes. homeless a choice for some? many admit so. this is in a lot of documentaries, not all its still their preference. When you say rich as a choice, you are assuming this person has equal opportunities and value-se...
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:51 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Islam puff piece on CNN
Replies: 4
Views: 421

wow dude, you are really into talking about polarized viewpoints, then holding one yourself. Most of your posts are like this, plus your avatar.
by Birdseye
Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:28 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Obama, Liar in chief
Replies: 16
Views: 1441

spidey, no hes not, you are just being biased because he's a democrat.
by Birdseye
Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:48 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Just incase you want to rat on yourself before anyone else.
Replies: 32
Views: 1839

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Hmmmm. I was just reading about the Bush administration wiretapping ordinary citizens. I wonder if any of that was true. Bee So this a good plan? Seems even the liberal ACLU doesn't like it: "The Obama administration is proposing to scale back a long-standing ban on tracking how people use gov...
by Birdseye
Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:43 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Obama, Liar in chief
Replies: 16
Views: 1441

Politician Lies!
Dog Bites Man!


and other shockers!
by Birdseye
Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:34 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Iraq War - Go again?
Replies: 64
Views: 4286

very interesting hearing everyone's reaction, definitely don't have the time to rehash any old arugments :)