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by Scanjo
Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:11 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

At this point, I have only 10 adapter boards left. First come, first served. I have no plans for ordering more parts till at least this fall. My spring and summer is just too busy. Hopefully this will allow enough time to have full support for the FFB Wheel also!
by Scanjo
Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:33 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Hi, I'm trying to adapt the project for an Arduino Leonardo board and I would be very glad, if someone could help me with my troubleshooting. I have built the circuit on perfboard with the required resistors and capacitors, and connected a Microsoft Sidewinder FFB Pro Joystick to it. When I connect...
by Scanjo
Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:44 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 956695

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

The mini joystick is discussed on the previous page. Pics, wiring, and link to firmware supporting it.
by Scanjo
Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:05 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 956695

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

One issue a stick or 2 does have is a sticky slider. Has anyone solved that one? Silicon? I'd try alcohol first or electronics cleaner. I prefer alcohol because it doesn't evaporate as fast, gives more time to work the parts around to get the dirt to loosen and flow out. Silicon is going to leave a...
by Scanjo
Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:51 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 956695

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

If the 3 sticks don't have the exact same problems, then don't rule out the possibility that the buttons are dirty from sitting unused for years. I had to tear my FFP apart and clean buttons 4, 6, & 7. I used some 90% rubbing alcohol. Dab a little on the switch and wiggle the button of the switc...
by Scanjo
Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:49 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 956695

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

If you want to build your own board that's great. Enjoy your project. :) If you'd rather buy one then check out what I'm selling here. http://www.descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19061&start=90 Compatible with Force Feedback Pro, Precision Pro, 3D Pro, (still waiting confirmation on 3D Pro...
by Scanjo
Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:37 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP
Replies: 293
Views: 956695

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

If you want to build your own board that's great. Enjoy your project. :) If you'd rather buy one then check out what I'm selling here. http://www.descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19061&start=90 Compatible with Force Feedback Pro, Precision Pro, 3D Pro, (still waiting confirmation on 3D Pro ...
by Scanjo
Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:42 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

The modified board I am building is now confirmed to work on a Mac Book Air running Mac OS X 10.9.1 "Mavericks". According to this site: http://at.or.at/hans/research/nime/hid/apis.html and I quote... "HID Manager is the standard USB HID API on Mac OS X." From this statement I wo...
by Scanjo
Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:41 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

If he needs more help, I'm fairly sure he will ask.

Waiting is hard for me too. I don't even have a wheel but I'm still excited for it to be included in the compatibility list.
by Scanjo
Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:13 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

Cal and Skoo are hard at work and making great progress. My question to you is, would you rather they spend their time making it work or spend their time here posting to us? They're in the middle of figuring out all the FFB commands. Cal has referred to this as "grunt work" and it just tak...
by Scanjo
Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:51 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I wonder if it MUST send 2 axis commands . If X is forward and back on the joystick and Y is side to side, then doesn't it make sense that the wheel is a Y axis and must be sent 2nd? The X axis becomes a dummy command just to take up command space so the Y command can be sent...
by Scanjo
Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:08 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

The FFB board I am building is now confirmed to work with the 3DP. Grendel says that if it works with the 3DP then it will work with the 3DP Plus as well. I'm taking no chances. Once burned, twice shy. I'm sending a board out to one last tester with a 3DPP to confirm it. I'll start sending boards ou...
by Scanjo
Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:46 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

The adapter I'm building is indeed not compatible with the 3D Pro and 3D Pro Plus. We are working on the problem and think we have a solution. A modified board is on the way to a tester. My apologies for the misinformation and confusion. More news soon.
by Scanjo
Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:44 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

There is debate about whether this adapter I'm building does indeed support the 3D Pro and 3D Pro Plus. If you have one of these, please wait to order till we sort out what's happening. I got an email from one person that theirs does not. I don't know if it's an incompatibility or a joystick hardwar...
by Scanjo
Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:27 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

@Reaper36... The first problem with my "listening"-cable is that it seems to respond to interference, sometimes force feedback commands do not make it through any more but it still works. The bigger issue when I connect the cable to my parallel port is that the inputs of the port seem to m...
by Scanjo
Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:19 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro

I've been thinking about enclosures for this board. Thus far, the buyer has been responsible for making an enclosure. I've come up with a simple and cost effective way to protect this board without spending a a bunch more on a box. sleeve.jpg This is a fairly heavy duty shrink tube. It will reduce t...
by Scanjo
Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:03 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

There have been quite a few questions about this project so here is a sort of mini FAQ. ================= 1 - Which controllers does this board support? The 3DPro The 3DPro Plus, Precision Pro, and Force Feedback Pro. The 3D Pro is supported in digital mode, which is explained further in the next qu...
by Scanjo
Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:10 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

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by Scanjo
Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:51 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

I've been working on buying parts and getting the PCB manufactured. Packing materials was an after thought... I'm to a point where I am ready to start making and selling them. I've priced it at $40 plus actual shipping cost to you. I will test everything before I ship it. I'm willing to sell kits wi...
by Scanjo
Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:26 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

All parts are in. Just waiting on packing supplies. Here's a pic of the final board. joy_final.jpg Overall dimensions of the board are 2.1" wide X 3.5" long including the DB-15 connector. This should help you in planning for an enclosure to use. Postage to Germany should be from 6 to 10 do...
by Scanjo
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:58 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

@Duglum - In the interest of full disclosure, this is a different project than Grendel created. It is based on Grendel's work but it does NOT work with his code. I chose to go this route because it supports the force feedback. There is more info, and files to download at the Adapt-FFB-Joy project.( ...
by Scanjo
Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:14 am
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

Ok...it works but it's not pretty. I made some changes. 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg I put the 16 pin header on that I originally used with a game port on a ribbon cable. I also added a db-15f right on the board so I can have that protrude from the project box. It's tested and working including force fee...
by Scanjo
Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:55 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

Well the parts finally arrived and I got the soldering iron out. I decided to use the plans from this site to see if I could get the force feedback to work as well. They use your plans with a couple further mods and of course software to support the mods they made. I have it together and functioning...
by Scanjo
Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:10 pm
Forum: Tech Forum
Topic: Reverse Engineering the Force Feedback Pro
Replies: 309
Views: 1084831

Re: USB Converter for MS Sidewinder 3DPro, PP, and FFP

Thanks so much Grendel for this project and the time you have spent on it. I have a FFP which has been collecting dust for a long time now. I am not a Descent player and never have been but I DO like flight simulators, and I'm worthless trying to fly with the keyboard. It's going to be SO nice to fl...