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by callmeslick
Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:53 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

Spidey wrote:Whata talkin bout, I seen Disney’s Aladdin and Prince of Persia.

(actually I haven’t)

well, then I won't spoil the endings for you..... :lol:
by callmeslick
Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:51 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: What Shariah means:
Replies: 180
Views: 8225

Re: What Shariah means:

The real dirty little secret is that the leftiest leftie who ever lefted in the US would still be considered "center-right" on the overall political spectrum. Most Europeans I've talked to find the depiction of Democrats as "liberals" to be completely hilarious. very true. Hell,...
by callmeslick
Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:49 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: What Shariah means:
Replies: 180
Views: 8225

Re: What Shariah means:

No goal post to move. Of course you on the left pay great credence to blogs and how truthful they are :roll: Tell me, how do you know this isn't some whacked out liberal making a post to paint a picture of adulating adherents endorsing what happened ? You jumped on Cuda for linking some off the wal...
by callmeslick
Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:44 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: The Real Party of No
Replies: 18
Views: 1297

Re: The Real Party of No

Polls taken during a highly emotion event should be taken with a grain of salt. Lets wait and see how the polls are a month or so from now. On the other side of the coin: that is why I cited polls taken in late March or early April, after most of the governors cited had submitted budgets. The view ...
by callmeslick
Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:39 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your fears realized...
Replies: 41
Views: 2391

Re: Your fears realized...

Back to the "educated folk -> abuse-resistant" assertion: slick, is there a population you would cite as an example for this? (I personally think education is a hugely important factor, but education != power.) Good question, Foil. I wouldn't propose any as absolutely 'abuse-proof', but t...
by callmeslick
Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:34 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

Consider where modern day Christian culture would be if Jesus had been preaching and practicing xenophobic, racist and misogynistic gospel and maybe the vast difference between the two you want so hard to make the same will reveal itself to you!! actually, I shudder to think, after a lifetime of wa...
by callmeslick
Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:28 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

Right. And the Taliban when they controlled Afghanistan were steering their country into a progressive and enlightened future. hardly. But that is akin to certain strains of 'Conservatives' in the US who would take us back to the early Industrial Revolution or further. It's all relative. Let's face...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:57 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

Bear in mind, Islam is a somewhat newer development, and took root in a part of the world that has been slower to develop, culturally(could one blame that lethargy on the religion? Maybe, but far from certain). Slower? "Persia was a cradle of science in earlier times. Persian scientists contri...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:56 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: What Shariah means:
Replies: 180
Views: 8225

Re: What Shariah means:

Wow, a poem. I can understand why this did not make the 6:00 news. Not quite the level of jihad tho. kinda moving the goalposts, aren't we, chief? I stated that wingnuts celebrated McVeigh, as wingnuts celebrated 9/11. You asked for proof. I provided one of many examples, and you come back with the...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:53 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: World Wars, a Myth?
Replies: 68
Views: 3011

Re: World Wars, a Myth?

true Woody then you have people like Michael Moore with his "documentaries" they are all subjective propagandist lies. care to back that one up with proof? too many people are sheep that have no will to search for the truth, and are unwilling or are too lazy to learn and expand on their k...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:49 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

Constantly comparing Islam to Christianity does this issue a great disservice, it’s about time the real problems were identified…that being radical Arabs and countries like Saudi Arabia, and not “Religion”. But of course some people here seem to be enamored with that country, and or fear the oil lo...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:45 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

and what bias are you showing when you imply Islam and Christianity are analogous in the context of this discussion when you use quite a broad brush yourself to sweep away the key difference raised in the discussion between the two religious groups and their prophets. That difference being the viol...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:37 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: What Shariah means:
Replies: 180
Views: 8225

Re: What Shariah means:

You have examples? If not you are spouting conjecture. Keep trying tho as those uneducated masses will no doubt believe you. here's a pip. Plenty more for you to locate with very little effort required: http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/in-honor-of-timothy-mcveigh/ by the way, I am not put off by call...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:30 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your fears realized...
Replies: 41
Views: 2391

Re: Your fears realized...

woodchip wrote:Ahhh...the infamous caveat.

caveat? No, just a straightforward definition. I don't define merely learning to read and write the language on a basic level to be the same as actual education, which provides both context and skills by which to continue learning throughout life.
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:28 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Observation, biology, and evolution [Thread Split]
Replies: 108
Views: 6612

Re: Observation, biology, and evolution [Thread Split]

I do believe that a belief system is part of the natural human makeup. So when a person no longer puts any credence in the spiritual aspects of life…science then replaces that aspect. my view is different(not to infer whatsoever that I feel yours is wrong): It always seemed to me that man tended to...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:33 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Observation, biology, and evolution [Thread Split]
Replies: 108
Views: 6612

Re: Observation, biology, and evolution [Thread Split]

well put, Dissent. There are few immutable Laws in Science(the highest definition of fact), and really not all that much that a true scientist will accept as beyond challenge. Therein lies the key aspect which should keep Science and Religion to separate realms: Science asks that everything be chall...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:28 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

I wonder how that differs from the numbers one would see on the assimilation of, say, the Italians or Chinese or Poles or Russians into American society. Thanks for posting the Times link, as it gives a more well-rounded view than a xenophobic nutjob down in Tennessee.
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:26 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your fears realized...
Replies: 41
Views: 2391

Re: Your fears realized...

simple literacy does not equate to education.
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:25 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: What Shariah means:
Replies: 180
Views: 8225

Re: What Shariah means:

Suppositions in such matters does not fly here. Perhaps on the Democratic Underground Movement Board (D.U.M.B.) tho. BS. Are you telling me that a sizeable number within the goofball militia movement didn't celebrate? Just because they weren't dancing in your town square doesn't equate to not celeb...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:23 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: You know, I used to like Barack Obama
Replies: 82
Views: 4516

Re: You know, I used to like Barack Obama

Well, I can't find anything I disagree with there except, I wouldn't live to far in the future. Taking precautions seems like a good idea, no? sensible precautions, sure. But, simply grabbing a gun is NEVER a sensible precaution, if what you are trying to avoid is wholesale revolt by the starving m...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:19 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: The Real Party of No
Replies: 18
Views: 1297

Re: The Real Party of No

sure: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/03/30/Poll-Support-for-Tea-Party-has-slipped/UPI-54601301534297/ http://www.fallsnewspress.com/news/article/5005275 http://theweek.com/article/index/213678/the-gop-governors-plummeting-popularity plenty more, but you get the idea. Quinnipiac, Gallup and the ...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:07 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your fears realized...
Replies: 41
Views: 2391

Re: Your fears realized...

your point? I thought we were discussing monetary issues in the US. If Iran is pertinent, it would be as an example of Jefferson's point which I cited. A huge population of marginally-educated people equates to a society which can be yanked around by a handful of leaders and/or thugs.
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:04 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: What Shariah means:
Replies: 180
Views: 8225

Re: What Shariah means:

Except the Oklahoma guy was not shouting "God is Great" and no videos of Christians dancing in the streets showed up on you tube. ....that you saw. I suspect there was celebration in many quarters. Images can be used to manipulate very nicely, thank you, and when the act is committed by p...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:01 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

CUDA, in the article you cite, a close reading shows this to be the source of all 'facts' noted:
http://bearcreekledger.com/category/ten ... ed-topics/

you have to be freaking kidding me. What's next, the Luddite News and Gazette?
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:55 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: What Shariah means:
Replies: 180
Views: 8225

Re: What Shariah means:

As I stated earlier, alarmism over Sharia in the US is merely a smokescreen, and a xenophobic, bigoted smokescreen at that. We have real problems to deal with, and the way some men avoid dealing with problems is pointing the finger at some imagined 'threat', to serve as a boogeyman. I would of agre...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:50 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your fears realized...
Replies: 41
Views: 2391

Re: Your fears realized...

Would the Patriot Act have flown in this country if proposed on Sept 10th,2001? Don't ever underestimate the stupidity of people when put under extreme duress. They will hold you under just to have something to float on or trample you to death in a panic. well put, but isn't that what we have to re...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:44 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: You know, I used to like Barack Obama
Replies: 82
Views: 4516

Re: You know, I used to like Barack Obama

but at least my rationale is based on the idea of a civil society that remains civil through good times and bad. Lol, yeah, but if I were you, I'd still think about a keeping a firearm close. I can make endless arguments that shows that's way outside the realm of reality. the purpose of said 'firea...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:39 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: You know, I used to like Barack Obama
Replies: 82
Views: 4516

Re: You know, I used to like Barack Obama

woodchip wrote:Class warfare work two ways.

and yet, one side generally wins. Ever wonder why? Or, ever wonder how the rubes on the bottom are consistently stupid enough to get gulled into the concept of 'trickle on your head' economics?
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:34 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: You know, I used to like Barack Obama
Replies: 82
Views: 4516

Re: You know, I used to like Barack Obama

Entitlement is the one thing they all seem to have in common. Sort of like Michelle Bachmann(and myownself for the sake of disclosure) are entitled to tax rebates because we own a lot of 'agricultural' land? Sort of like making money from dividends and other investment profits 'entitles' one to get...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:30 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: You know, I used to like Barack Obama
Replies: 82
Views: 4516

Re: You know, I used to like Barack Obama

He was right about the fact that we will never be competitive enough in the global market, nor stable enough in terms of our personal economies, without greater stability in healthcare coverage. . Right and the economic boom of, say, the 90's was because we had as national health care program. Woul...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:26 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: You know, I used to like Barack Obama
Replies: 82
Views: 4516

Re: You know, I used to like Barack Obama

What is uninspirational is how govt. and state employees seem to be doing quite well off the backs of all those whose wages have not increased/ what is astounding is that non-union private sector workers, after 20 plus years of wages not increasing and benefits getting slashed, would wish to elimin...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:24 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: You know, I used to like Barack Obama
Replies: 82
Views: 4516

Re: You know, I used to like Barack Obama

what Obama is would be a 'pragmatist'. He believes in doing what needs to be done for the common good of the nation with little regard for ideology. That was who he was, who he is, and who he will continue to be. What is astounding is that so few people seem to have noticed that from the outset. I'...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:35 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

Picking and choosing the emphasis merely shows your cultural bias, not reality. callmeslick, you just made a statement of reality by wielding one opinion against another without ever show the merit or fault of either. The only thing that can legitimately be derived from your reply is that you belie...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:27 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: World Wars, a Myth?
Replies: 68
Views: 3011

Re: World Wars, a Myth?

I think, CUDA, what he meant was that such goofy claims only stick if the public has no access to information, and hence facts. That is why, more and more often, dictators and despots seek to limit or bar access to the Internet as a means of control. On the small scale, say Tunisia or Egypt. On the ...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:22 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your fears realized...
Replies: 41
Views: 2391

Re: Your fears realized...

But seriously (and hypothetically), it's getting to the point where working with cash in America is a chore for a lot of people, and it costs us so much to actually print the paper money I see some things changing. I don't know where you live, but that may be true for urban/suburban areas, but not ...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:31 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: You know, I used to like Barack Obama
Replies: 82
Views: 4516

Re: You know, I used to like Barack Obama

I think the problem with 'gut level' judgement is that it seldom seems very nuanced, and in the context of being President of the US in the year 2011, nuance is involved in nearly every situation. At any rate, I think what one sees with Obama's election is a pendulum swing away from the behavior and...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:23 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: What Shariah means:
Replies: 180
Views: 8225

Re: What Shariah means:

TB, two points: What, in the experience of US legal practice, gives you the faintest idea that such acts would not be criminal in this country? When have we ever allowed special practices to override civil rights, if such practices were not protected by legislation or the Constitution? Secondly, you...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:13 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: well, here we go......
Replies: 12
Views: 774

Re: well, here we go......

Possibly, CUDA, I should introduce myself a bit further-- Who am I?--I am 56 years old, with residences in Pennsylvania and the Eastern Shore of Virginia. I mostly stay in PA, as I work as a clinical chemist(speciality protein analysis), but my heart and heritage lies in Virginia, where I plan to re...
by callmeslick
Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:03 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: well, here we go......
Replies: 12
Views: 774

Re: well, here we go......

Welcome, slick. You said in another thread that you've been reading here for a while before you posted. Careful about first impressions, though; people here still surprise me sometimes, and I've been here for years. :) always the case, especially in a communication medium based on text with no chan...
by callmeslick
Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:01 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Reforming Islam
Replies: 71
Views: 3663

Re: Reforming Islam

The same logic can and should be applied. The thing is, Muhammad taught violence and hate, and Jesus taught peace and love. Most Ba'hai and Sufi adherents would disagree strongly with the above. Mohammad, in their view, focused on peace. Picking and choosing the emphasis merely shows your cultural ...