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by Sirian
Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:51 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

Um, there's a difference between retracting the call for Gore and making the call for Bush. On the night in question, that difference spanned HOURS. They also retracted the call for Bush as the final precincts came in and his sizeable lead evaporated. Note that none of the news services swung the st...
by Sirian
Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:02 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

No reply yet on the Bacon question. :) However, sheepdog has posted today on this topic. Let's take a look. I just want to share that I haven't watched Farenheit 9/11 because I am afraid of how badly it will make me feel. As I pointed out in the other thread, I have seen Moore's previous movies, and...
by Sirian
Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:37 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Getting closer to the answer
Replies: 54
Views: 3365

Do you even know what "the missing link" means? You are not giving me that impression.

If you are uninformed about the science, how do you expect to argue successfully against its questions, projections, and conclusions?


- Sirian
by Sirian
Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:42 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Getting closer to the answer
Replies: 54
Views: 3365

Also keep in mind that there should be millions of these "indisputable" fossils laying around if evolution is true. It has, after all, had "4.6 billion years" to fossilize stuff. I have heard of no scientific theories that hypothesize that life on earth involves a four billion y...
by Sirian
Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:35 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

In another thread, Testi had this to say:
Testiculese wrote:Oops, I see the brain-dead found the thread.
In this thread:
Testiculese wrote:Why does Sirian assume marriage automatically means children?
The solution in both cases is the same: more carefully read the thread.


- Sirian
by Sirian
Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:09 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

Sirian, You've been preaching to the choir too long. Your standard of proof is embarassingly low! You watched Moore on TV so that means you know something about him?! Bold Deciever, if you read this make a note. Sirian thinks tv watching is a basis for knowledge. You're underestimating me. I'm the ...
by Sirian
Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:38 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

Ferno wrote:supporting closing some while supporting opening others? to me that just doesn't make sense logically.
Yeah. We must be missing some info.
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:16 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

sirian do you think O'Reilly is a more credible source than moore? Apples and oranges. Moore makes films where he controls the entire content. O'Reilly interviews a wide range of guests, asks questions, and lets the guests answer, so long as they do not filibuster, dodge questions, or make claims w...
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:20 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

sheepdog wrote:Sirian I imagine my actual knowledge of Oreilly is on a par with your actual knowledge of Michael Moore.
See my previous post, then imagine again. :)

- Sirian
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:17 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

I am just against those that write off everything he says as "all lies," and therefor choose not to even listen to his criticisms. Just because he is a biased voice doesn't mean he is wrong on all accounts. Agreed. My first sighting of Michael Moore was his brief stint on NBC, where he di...
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:59 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

All these problems do not apply to homosexual couples, and they could well be the reason for your above statistics. Conclusion: If you want to compare, you need to control for these variables... The burden of proof lies with those who want to upset the established order. Agreed. But there are many ...
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:40 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

Moore never said he was, he just showed the footage w/o commentary. And what does the footage show? The President was playing a round of golf. Ever heard the cliche "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"? The President took time to divert from his play to engage briefly with the pre...
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:27 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

If Bill OReilly could work in film, you better believe he'd be doing a right wing version of the same thing. You clearly know nothing about Bill O'Reilly. Why don't you pick up a copy of one of his books and read it? "Who's Looking Out For You?" would be a good one to start with. I learne...
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:21 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Those Who Believe Michael Moore ...
Replies: 172
Views: 10821

Ice. I've seen those 59 points. Looks like fingerpointing to me. You find one point to criticize and so you dismiss them all? Wow. Same with Goob. Only got a complaint about one point? What about the other 57? The Condy Rice point in particular is d@mning of Michael Moore. Ripping quotes out of con...
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:51 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your favorite movie maker is at it again
Replies: 80
Views: 4689

If you are going to defend the high ground I suggest you make sure your personna is squeaky clean. Diversion number seven. This is a skillful diversion, I admit. However, your grand display of gloating is premature. How long did it take you to search all of my recent posts to come up with that very...
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:12 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

Sex obviously has NO implications in the "nuclear" family That's ridiculous. It is possible for children to obtain role models outside the home, from the community. It is also widely understood that this is a weaker option than having both male and female role models (healthy examples, th...
by Sirian
Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:37 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

Personally, it just seems hypocritical to suggest that it should be illegal for gays to marry and presumably adopt kids or go through surrogate parents or whatever, while not suggesting it be similarly illegal to have kids out of wedlock or allow divorce to existing parents. Your response? From me,...
by Sirian
Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:19 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

TheCops wrote:i prefer no carrot.
For yourself, personally? Or for society?
kufyit wrote:Idealism is not a healthy perspective to approach this problem from.
:)

Also, thanks for the kind words about my writing. :)


- Sirian
by Sirian
Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:11 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Abu Garaib 2
Replies: 34
Views: 2218

I've been following this story closely. So far, I've had the opportunity to watch the tape half a dozen times. Three things have become clear to me: 1) The marine in question was responding to what he perceived to be a threat. 2) The marine in question was not acting out of hatred or malice. 3) Alth...
by Sirian
Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:00 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your favorite movie maker is at it again
Replies: 80
Views: 4689

Gooberman wrote:My thread was craped on
You posted a news link and a smiley. You prompted some exchanges about Michael Moore. Um... What Moore did you want? :)

- Sirian
by Sirian
Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:52 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: the nature of god
Replies: 21
Views: 1619

In support of Phoenix Red's point, there are some very interesting sci-fi novels that examine the question of what a universe might look like if it ran on different physics. If gravity were slightly stronger or slightly weaker... If radiation decay rates were different because of changes in nuclear ...
by Sirian
Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:47 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: For you non-Christians...
Replies: 64
Views: 3991

Howdy, Matthew. Pleased to meet ya. :)
by Sirian
Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:40 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

Any relationship can be either healthy of disfunctional. Irrelevant. Come on, Scott. We're almost there. Shift your focus from the anecdoatal level to the statistics. What percentage of children raised in stable nuclear families completes high school? What percentage completes college? What percent...
by Sirian
Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:42 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your favorite movie maker is at it again
Replies: 80
Views: 4689

Shouting is bad form in any debate The personal attacks failed you and you've given up on them for now. That's progress. Unfortunately, we're not yet home, as you're on to a slew of diversions. Shouting is something done with the voice. Some folks interpret all caps text as shouting, but I do not. ...
by Sirian
Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:32 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Abu Garaib 2
Replies: 34
Views: 2218

I said that we should wait until a full investigation is conducted. Of course, you realize, those not already partial to the USA will cry "coverup" and think the investigation is bogus if our man who did this deed is cleared. Nevertheless, we should ignore that and obtain the facts, then r...
by Sirian
Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:51 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Abu Garaib 2
Replies: 34
Views: 2218

This wasn't a mercy killing. This was a man that the soldier in question believed to be "faking death" for nefarious reasons. The report I heard talks about bodies being rigged as Improvised Explosive Devices and terrorists or insurgents faking wounds or death to lure Marines in closer wit...
by Sirian
Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:38 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Colin Powell left=not good
Replies: 18
Views: 1055

I think Powell was less of a strict Bush loyalist, though he was still somewhat loyal. Somewhat loyal? When General Powell worked as an advisor to President Ronald Reagan, he made a particular policy recommendation that the President was initially against. There were a minority of advisors in favor...
by Sirian
Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:50 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

What does this phrase "worth as much to society" mean? Is the primary function of a relationship supposed to be calculated in terms of the larger benefit to society? We're talking about society PROMOTING relationships and behavior by enshrining certain types of relationships as socially v...
by Sirian
Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:10 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your favorite movie maker is at it again
Replies: 80
Views: 4689

Picking one part of my reply to bolster your argument? My beef is with ad hominem attacks on Moore. You have not only made such, but attempted to justify them. If my calling you to the carpet over that turns you into an adversary of mine, well, join the long list. I'm an equal opportunity critic wh...
by Sirian
Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:41 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: the nature of god
Replies: 21
Views: 1619

Sentience: consciousness. The question then becomes: Is God aware? If yes, then His creations are conscious acts. If no, then His creations are unconscious, unplanned, uncoordinated acts. If no, then we as human beings possess a capability that God does not: for we are sentient. If yes, then God's e...
by Sirian
Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:06 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

Call it what it is and keep it in perspective. Todays gay lifestyle is a burden for the people who live it and perhaps a much bigger burden for the children who find themselves under it's thumb. You may be right, but the burden arises out of the prejudice and intolerance of society at large. I have...
by Sirian
Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:56 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your favorite movie maker is at it again
Replies: 80
Views: 4689

Since Moore and Soros had no qualms about attacking Bush on a personal level, I have no compunction about doing the same in return. Justifying your bad behavior by pointing to theirs? I reject this excuse. How are you going to win the debate if you so readily sacrifice the high ground? You would be...
by Sirian
Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:45 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Gay Marriage Ban?
Replies: 211
Views: 10744

Anyway, this debate really can be done in a very concise manner. Drakona and others don't believe a gay relationship is worth a straight relationship. That would be correct. Let's carry this logic further. Supposing that we take two relationships. One is a traditional heterosexual marriage, the oth...
by Sirian
Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:17 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: So much for the healing process
Replies: 107
Views: 5861

Bash, so noted. Missed by a whole country. My apology for the misstatement. :) Siri, are you not choosing the facts that are convenient to your point of view? When I criticize your point of view, I do it by putting more facts on the table: facts that you have not mentioned, which tend to refute your...
by Sirian
Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:36 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your favorite movie maker is at it again
Replies: 80
Views: 4689

To say the attacks on Moore is uncalled for is to say attacks on Kerrys war record is uncalled for when Kerry makes that record a lynch pin of his predidential bid. Kerry's record was an issue. This included his record as a soldier, his record as an antiwar activist, his record as Lieutenant Govern...
by Sirian
Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:11 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: So much for the healing process
Replies: 107
Views: 5861

I don't think the debate is so much about not being aggressive. I think it's about how you go about doing it. Wow, you're pitching me a lot of softballs here. :) You can't tell what the future holds, but right now it's looking like the invasion was a mistake. Says who? On what basis? Was it a mista...
by Sirian
Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:52 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: Your favorite movie maker is at it again
Replies: 80
Views: 4689

Personal attacks on Michael Moore are uncalled for. In fact, they tend to validate his point of view among his supporters. When does one resort to ad hominem attacks? Usually when they are too lazy or too irrational to refute with a clear rebuttal. Michael Moore's work is a good example of why Birds...
by Sirian
Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:01 pm
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: So much for the healing process
Replies: 107
Views: 5861

My personal view is a very unflattering one, which is that people who live rurally tend to be more isolationist, and as such don't care as much about the precision with which we conduct international affairs. The Democrats want to stick their heads in the sand, ala Neville Chamberlain. That most of...
by Sirian
Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:29 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: For you non-Christians...
Replies: 64
Views: 3991

I revised the question, Sirian. It's not much better, but it doesn't sound as caustic now. Fair enough. Clarity of intent will suffice. I will try to answer. In my experience, there are two types of Christians. I think of them as "Matthew" Christians and "Mark" Christians. There...
by Sirian
Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:51 am
Forum: Ethics and Commentary
Topic: So much for the healing process
Replies: 107
Views: 5861

Mehyam wrote:Urban vs. Rural. City slickers = neighbor-aware?
As compared to what? Neighbor-unaware? Ridiculous.


- Sirian