Black Pyro in D3: Retribution

Alley7 · Post by **Alley7** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:45 pm

I heard about \"Black Pyro justice\" add-on, but that isn't what I want... Is there any other tool for adding Black Pyro?

Please help.

P.S. I have D3: Mercenary...

QuestionableChaos · Post by **QuestionableChaos** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:43 pm

yeah theres another way, its a bit of a hassle but should work

use HogView (or anyother .hog file utility) to open merc.hog, and extract the file table.gam to your d3 directory.

open table.gam with GamTool, and search for the ship files for the Black Pyro, and the PyroGL. Without expanding either ship's directory, simply rename the PyroGL to BlackPyro, and BlackPyro the PyroGL, and save.

Im not honestly sure if this will work, but I do extensive modifications to descent3 table files for personal fun (make my own weapons, modify AI, etc), and to my experience this SHOULD work

Let me know if it works or doesn't work - if not we can try another option (go ahead and PM me, or just post here)

Good luck and hope this helps!

Alley7 · Post by **Alley7** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:33 am

Hmm, I don't have Gam Tool. Can you modify that files for me?

QuestionableChaos · Post by **QuestionableChaos** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:37 am

mhm sure

send me a personal message with your email address and ill send the changed table file to you - simply drop it into your d3 directory.

note - be sure to move this modded table file out of your d3 directory when you plan on playing online, as it might cause some issues

Alley7 · Post by **Alley7** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:59 am

Okay, PM sent.

What about Mercenary single player? I will there still be able to use Black pyro?

QuestionableChaos · Post by **QuestionableChaos** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:25 am

yep - Im modifying the table so that the standard Pyro-GL will be replaced with the Black Pyro, but the Black Pyro will continue to be the Black Pyro

Thus, if you want to switch to the regular Pyro-GL, or play online, simply move the modded table file out of your d3 directory

Im uploading the file to email right now (takes a few minutes)

Alley7 · Post by **Alley7** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:28 pm

Thank you for your effort. I will test this tomorrow.

Alley7 · Post by **Alley7** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:07 am

I tested this and I'm not happy. This file works, but I still don't have a REAL black pyro. Everything is messed up. Cockpit looks exactly the same as in standard Pyro GL. Concussion missiles are too fast, homing missiles are too slow and with strange look (I can fire just ONE missile at the time)... This is certainly not Black pyro. It's just another strange piece of crap I already saw in \"Black pyro justice\" add-on. Why is so hard to have a REAL and STANDARD Black pyro in D3: Retribution?

However, thanks again for your effort and good intentions. I don't want to sound rude, I'm just angry at those idiots who made D3: Mercenary with new ship which can't be used in old sinle player game.

QuestionableChaos · Post by **QuestionableChaos** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:23 pm

hm i just tested the file again, and i noticed that while it does make switch ships correctly for any other level, its not switching for Retribution (i tested the file out in another level)

this might have something to do with the Black Pyro being associated with a second table file, called extra.gam

ill see what i can do

QuestionableChaos · Post by **QuestionableChaos** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:49 pm

I just tried a few more things, and it appears that the Pyro-GL is hardcoded into the programing for Retribution. I can get the ship switch for everything else, but its not working for Retribution for some reason

- This isnt uncommon for modding Descent3 table files, as there are a some things that cannot be changed or modified as they are hardcoded (one example of this is the massdriver \"trail\")

- So it appears that it may not be possible to do the switch

HOWEVER - I can easily make you a highly modified Pyro, with weapons/physics exactly like the Black Pyro

Or I can just as easy change it to whatever you want

just send in the order!

Alley7 · Post by **Alley7** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:33 am

Okay, thanks!

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:59 pm

hehe, you should see some of my ships, they can outrun the subway trains!!

QuestionableChaos · Post by **QuestionableChaos** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:52 pm

AceCombat wrote:hehe, you should see some of my ships, they can outrun the subway trains!!

i did that a while back

made level 4 quitee a bit easier haha

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:15 pm

ive gone as far as editing the subway trains themselves so that they can be destroyed, but they would sporadically crash the game if you destroyed too many of them.

i went through every line in the table.gam with GAM Editor and made it so i could shoot out glass that your not supposed to be able to destroy, its kinda funny what you can do with the .gam's

QuestionableChaos · Post by **QuestionableChaos** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:24 pm

AceCombat wrote:ive gone as far as editing the subway trains themselves so that they can be destroyed, but they would sporadically crash the game if you destroyed too many of them.

oOoh thats an interesting idea, ill have to try that

AceCombat wrote: i went through every line in the table.gam with GAM Editor and made it so i could shoot out glass that your not supposed to be able to destroy, its kinda funny what you can do with the .gam's

woah making unbreaking glass breakable... i can see the game engine getting quite angry with that

Alley7 · Post by **Alley7** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:55 am

Is there any way for adding robots in multiplayer maps? Something like bots in Counter-strike?

I want to practice, but all servers at CX Tracker has 0 players.

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:52 am

QuestionableChaos wrote:

woah making unbreaking glass breakable... i can see the game engine getting quite angry with that

yeah it does actually, so you have to be careful about how much of it you break at one time.

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