Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Descent mission help and more WARNING: Spoilers inside!

Moderator: AceCombat

Post Reply
User avatar
whodey
DBB Cadet
DBB Cadet
Posts: 10
Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:59 am

Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by whodey » Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:46 pm

I feel like I've found all the secret doors and everything in D1, but I'm curious about what you all think is the hardest secret to find in the game. Maybe there's some out there I still haven't found.
albertspaw
DBB Cadet
DBB Cadet
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:08 am

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by albertspaw » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:20 pm

I still can't find a way into the cage that is filled with Mega bombs in the very last level. Any ideas? Thanks. Al
User avatar
whodey
DBB Cadet
DBB Cadet
Posts: 10
Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:59 am

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by whodey » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:29 pm

At the start of level go through the door on the left. Keep going straight and you can go through another door right in front of you and end up in a room with three lasers. There's a secret door in the ceiling that leads you to the megas. You have to go through a couple class 1 drillers, a super hulk, and a couple platform robots to get there.
User avatar
Jeff250
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 6387
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 1999 2:01 am
Location: ☃☃☃

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Jeff250 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:39 pm

The doors are a lot easier to see nowadays. Telling them apart from the ordinary walls in their original 256 color 320x240 glory was a little more difficult.

I believe that secret level 2 was one of the more difficult for me to find at the time (I believe I found secret levels 1 and 3 on my first play through).
User avatar
Jeff250
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 6387
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 1999 2:01 am
Location: ☃☃☃

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Jeff250 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:45 pm

There's also that cool purple secret room in level 2 that I know I didn't find until one of my successive play throughs.
User avatar
Xfing
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1493
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:03 am
Location: Ringing Satan's Doorbell

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Xfing » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:29 pm

Jeff250 wrote:The doors are a lot easier to see nowadays. Telling them apart from the ordinary walls in their original 256 color 320x240 glory was a little more difficult.
I play only that way (well, until like 3 days ago where i switched to 1280x1024) and I have no problems with spotting them.

And yeah, I think the mega missile cage is the trickiest secret to get in D1. The hostage rooms in level S2 also used to be challenging to me, simply because I couldn't make it in time until the doors close. Once you get it, you'll never fail at it again, though.
Descent 1,5: Level layouts done: 34/54 Secret level layouts done: 1/6
Naphtha
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 219
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:10 pm

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Naphtha » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:06 am

Interesting topic, seeing as how there wasn't a lot of variety in how to set up secrets in D1. The way I see it, D2 secrets have two axes of difficulty, which is how hard they are to find and how hard they are to unlock, but D1 secrets are generally easier since only the first axis applies.

My vote also goes to the cage with the five Mega Missiles in Level 27. Even though the door doesn't actually blend in with the ceiling textures surrounding it at all, the hallway it's in is pitch-black as well as halfway across the level from the missiles themselves. Pales in comparison to the Shaker Missile secrets scattered throughout Counterstrike Level 24, but it could still be easily missed.

The exit to Secret Level 2 is also pretty out of the way, and compared to most of Level 21's tunnels, that one has somewhat higher ceilings so it's a bit harder to stumble upon the door by accident. You have to be looking for it a bit more actively than the other two, and the texture choice even has a better hidden door, so that doesn't help.

Level 12 also has a few tricky ones, as I recall. The grated Smart Missile and the missile hoards inside the tower actually took me quite a while to find...
First Lieutenant for the Red Dragons in the Descent Rangers. Join our ranks today!
User avatar
whodey
DBB Cadet
DBB Cadet
Posts: 10
Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:59 am

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by whodey » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:19 am

Speaking of level 12, it took me awhile to find that 3rd invulnerability. The cloak in the red key room in level 15 was another one that I found by accident. And finally, the laser you find in level 1 (one that should be easy but took me awhile to accidentally run into)
User avatar
Enzo-03
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 173
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:52 pm
Location: We will not have locations in the future.
Contact:

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Enzo-03 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:04 am

Jeff250 wrote:Telling them apart from the ordinary walls in their original 256 color 320x240 glory was a little more difficult.
*320x200
But very true. Those seams in the walls were a lot harder to see.
We will not have signatures in the future.
User avatar
vision
DBB Defender
DBB Defender
Posts: 3431
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:54 pm
Location: Mars

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by vision » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:19 am

Jeff250 wrote:There's also that cool purple secret room in level 2 that I know I didn't find until one of my successive play throughs.
I forget about this room 90% of the time just because I didn't find it until my 4th or 5th time through the game, so it is not in my pattern memory. It's such a great room too, so many goodies.
User avatar
Xfing
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1493
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:03 am
Location: Ringing Satan's Doorbell

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Xfing » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:00 am

I remember that I found the big secret room in Level 2 only after a few years of playing the game, too.
Descent 1,5: Level layouts done: 34/54 Secret level layouts done: 1/6
User avatar
roncli
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 141
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:01 am
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by roncli » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:56 pm

Mine was getting into the four rooms in Secret Level 2. For whatever reason, it took me forever to realize those doors were only locked on one side.
User avatar
Sirius
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5435
Joined: Fri May 28, 1999 2:01 am
Location: Bellevue, WA
Contact:

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Sirius » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:06 pm

D1 actually could have been tougher than it was on getting into secrets - there was the ability to do move-triggered doors and put the trigger a long way from the door, requiring you to do some fast flying. I don't know whether the one-shot flag actually worked though - if it did you could potentially be pretty nasty but honestly I don't think we needed that.

The secrets in the original game were pretty forgiving though, regardless. Definitely nothing like D2 level 2's Helix secret (though for a veteran pilot that isn't really difficult either, unless you haven't learned the door positions off by heart already).
User avatar
Avder
DBB Material Defender
DBB Material Defender
Posts: 4924
Joined: Sat Oct 09, 1999 2:01 am
Location: Moorhead, MN

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Avder » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:01 pm

The D2 level 2 helix puzzle I actually got right off the bat thanks to some dumb luck and natural curiosity about how guided missiles work.
User avatar
roncli
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 141
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:01 am
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by roncli » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:13 am

The helix I understood pretty quickly after getting the Full Map powerup in that level.
User avatar
Alter-Fox
The Feline Menace
Posts: 2660
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 12:49 pm
Location: the realms of theory
Contact:

Re: Hardest Secret in Descent 1

Post by Alter-Fox » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:05 am

I got the strategy guide for D1 almost right after I got D1 -- so by the time, twelve years (at least!) later that I managed to complete D1, I already knew where all the secrets were...
Except... there was one little secret on level 21, which was on the map in the strategy guide and yet I never it noticed until a year ago. So ignorance will qualify as hard. For everything else, I sort of cheated with the map book :P. On D2 I'm trying right now to go through all of Counterstrike and Vertigo and find everything, but it's tough in the levels that don't have full maps. And I refuse to cheat since I already sort of cheated on D1.
The eyes of the plush lobster stared deep into my soul. I touched it, made as if to pick it up, and then I was a panther.
BEWARE RAZZADOON'S SNOUT!!
...

Also beware my original music, at http://soundcloud.com/snowfoxden and http://vertigofox.bandcamp.com
Post Reply