Went Looking for Kevin

Descent mission help and more WARNING: Spoilers inside!

Moderator: AceCombat

Post Reply
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9205
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Duper » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:51 pm

and found this:
Kevin B. wrote:It hasn't died, I've just been super busy with work. If anyone wants to volunteer to help put together a Mac/Linux/windows installer I could probably provide them some unofficial binaries. Email me if interested.

Here


I've no clue with code. But if there are takers, he could use the help.
User avatar
Grendel
3d Pro Master
3d Pro Master
Posts: 4390
Joined: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Corvallis OR, USA

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Grendel » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:17 pm

Don't hold your breath -- posted in 12/2009, mentioned here. Kevin B. is the worst choice for maintaining Descent 3 -- no code release in 14 years but a lot of promises ! Makes me wonder how he makes a living.
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9205
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Duper » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:41 am

Something constructive please. :|
User avatar
Jeff250
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 6387
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 1999 2:01 am
Location: ☃☃☃

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Jeff250 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:16 am

Grendel wrote:Descent 3 -- no code release in 14 years but a lot of promises !
We're trapped in D3's friend zone. :frown:
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9205
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Duper » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:25 pm

lmao.

He ask 2 Years ago. Has anyone stepped up to help??? If not, then who is to blame here? He's running his own business along with a family.
Who then in that situation has the luxury of sitting down regularly and hammering out several 1000 lines of code?
User avatar
Grendel
3d Pro Master
3d Pro Master
Posts: 4390
Joined: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Corvallis OR, USA

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Grendel » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:43 pm

"Constructive" hasn't worked the last decade+ and 2 years ago was 12 years into the process. Don't tell me you can't find the time to hack a few 1000 lines of code or just release the damn thing w/in 14 years. If he wanted to get it done, just release it as-is. There are a lot people out there that would take good care of it.

Here's the last communication I had from the owner of the code:
On 05/12/2005, Matt T. wrote:Hi. Sorry to take so long to reply.

Kevin got busy after the birth of his second child. I also had my second around the same time, so I know what it's like.

The whole 1.5 patch issue is pretty crazy. I got almost all of it done many years ago, but I had one last issue and there were also the Mac and Linux versions to do. Kevin made progress on those two, but never quite finished it up.

As far as releasing the source code, my thought was to get the "final" patch out and then release the code.

I'll talk to Kevin and see if he and I can get it together enough to get this thing finished. Bug me again in a few weeks if you haven't heard back from me.
User avatar
Avder
DBB Material Defender
DBB Material Defender
Posts: 4924
Joined: Sat Oct 09, 1999 2:01 am
Location: Moorhead, MN

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Avder » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:28 pm

It would sure be nice if the D3 source code was released. I'd like to see a properly polished D3X.
User avatar
CDN_Merlin
DBB_Master
DBB_Master
Posts: 9486
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Location: Capital Of Canada

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by CDN_Merlin » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:24 pm

Doesn't Interplay own the rights to the source code???
Beta tested:
Game Stock Car 2012, Diablo 3, Descent 3 1.5 Patch, C&C Generals, Independance War 2, Starfleet Command 2, Settlers IV,Tzar, Allegiance, Starfleet Command, MAX 2, Defiance
ASUS Z170-P, Core I7-6700K, Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler, Gigabyte GF GTX970 OC 4GB GDDR5,Crucial 16GB 2133MHz DDR4, Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA3 SSD, WD Black 1 TB, ASUS DVD Burner, ASUS 27" Monitor, Fractal Design R5 Mid-Tower Case, Thermaltake ToughPower Gold 750 Watt, Win 10 64Bit
User avatar
Grendel
3d Pro Master
3d Pro Master
Posts: 4390
Joined: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Corvallis OR, USA

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Grendel » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:47 pm

No, only to the name.
User avatar
CDN_Merlin
DBB_Master
DBB_Master
Posts: 9486
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Location: Capital Of Canada

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by CDN_Merlin » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:01 pm

Then let's all bombard his email with the request to release the Source code
Beta tested:
Game Stock Car 2012, Diablo 3, Descent 3 1.5 Patch, C&C Generals, Independance War 2, Starfleet Command 2, Settlers IV,Tzar, Allegiance, Starfleet Command, MAX 2, Defiance
ASUS Z170-P, Core I7-6700K, Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler, Gigabyte GF GTX970 OC 4GB GDDR5,Crucial 16GB 2133MHz DDR4, Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA3 SSD, WD Black 1 TB, ASUS DVD Burner, ASUS 27" Monitor, Fractal Design R5 Mid-Tower Case, Thermaltake ToughPower Gold 750 Watt, Win 10 64Bit
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9205
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Duper » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:17 pm

Grendel wrote:No, only to the name.

Correct. Publishing rights. Iirc, they also own the rights to the Movie code in D2 for the intro and the intro and exit of each level or some such. ...not that that matters.

And as for Interplay, the Descent Wii conversion has taken how long now? 4 years? Merlin, you're on that site as much as I am.
User avatar
Alter-Fox
The Feline Menace
Posts: 2661
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 12:49 pm
Location: the realms of theory
Contact:

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by Alter-Fox » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:05 pm

I doubt it will be finished now that the WiiU is out.
I would like it if they released the new cockpit graphic and the other new graphics they were going to use on Wii, for DXX Rebirth and D2X-XL at least. You may end up hearing the new music that was going to be on Wii.
The eyes of the plush lobster stared deep into my soul. I touched it, made as if to pick it up, and then I was a panther.
BEWARE RAZZADOON'S SNOUT!!
...

Also beware my original music, at http://soundcloud.com/snowfoxden and http://vertigofox.bandcamp.com
User avatar
CDN_Merlin
DBB_Master
DBB_Master
Posts: 9486
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Location: Capital Of Canada

Re: Went Looking for Kevin

Post by CDN_Merlin » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:45 am

Duper, yeah, at least 4 years for the Wii port. I've already given up.
Beta tested:
Game Stock Car 2012, Diablo 3, Descent 3 1.5 Patch, C&C Generals, Independance War 2, Starfleet Command 2, Settlers IV,Tzar, Allegiance, Starfleet Command, MAX 2, Defiance
ASUS Z170-P, Core I7-6700K, Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler, Gigabyte GF GTX970 OC 4GB GDDR5,Crucial 16GB 2133MHz DDR4, Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA3 SSD, WD Black 1 TB, ASUS DVD Burner, ASUS 27" Monitor, Fractal Design R5 Mid-Tower Case, Thermaltake ToughPower Gold 750 Watt, Win 10 64Bit
Post Reply