D2X-W32 Problems

A forum just for you old time Descent and Descent2 players.
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

D2X-W32 Problems

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

After the message says "Prepare for Descent" in D2X-W32, it quits. what should I do?
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Does it do that with every level?
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

Diedel wrote:Does it do that with every level?
Yes...
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Are there any files with extension ".256" in your Descent folder?
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

yes, why?
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Nope. Them missing would've been an explanation for your problems. Get the D2X version I had uploaded to my Descent site an hour ago or so and try it - maybe it works for you. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce your problem.
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Post by Duper »

Do you have the SDL 1.2.7 set installed in your D2 dir?

This is a sound thing and the kinda crash you're getting smacks of a sound crash.
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

Sorry, I dont have 1.2.7 on my d2 directory, thanks for the tip
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Let me know if installing SDL 1.2.7 helped. If you cannot find it, I can upload the binaries to my Descent site.
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

it didn't work
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Actually the proper SDL DLL is included in my D2X-W32 zip file. I'm afraid I cannot help you then. I just cannot reproduce that bug.
Garak
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Post by Garak »

SDL 1.2.8 works with your build too (no reason why not though)
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Post by Duper »

where you getting 1.2.8?
Garak
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Post by Garak »

User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

thanks
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Post by Duper »

Dark Falcon wrote:thanks
X2!!!! :)
Garak
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Post by Garak »

You're welcome :)
Dark Falcon wrote:thanks
I take it the latest dsl helped/fixed your problem?
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

Garak wrote:You're welcome :)
Dark Falcon wrote:thanks
I take it the latest dsl helped/fixed your problem?
It gave me an error.

*sweat drop*
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Which error?

I will d/l SDL 1.2.8 and incorporate and link it with D2X-W32.

Edit: New version of D2X-W32 compiled and linked with SDL 1.2.8 is online. New SDL DLL is included in the zip file.
Garak
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Post by Garak »

Diedel,
Does d2x-w32 write any kind of crash info to a file like stderr or anything? Or is that something the old d2x versions did?

I'm just curious. :)
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Afaik not. The debug version might do that, but only for trapped exceptions (i.e. problems the programmers have foreseen and created some code to test for them and report them if they occur - usually with some assert macro calling a warning or error message. In such a case, you will see a message box on-screen though).

If there is a bug that causes a real crash (i.e. an unhandled exception of some kind), there will be no error logging.

The same is true for problems in the SDL. I e.g. had found at one time that the SDL would spuriously fail to properly initialize the OpenGL subsystem. All the proper arguments were passed to the proper functions, but the OpenGL driver returned an error for some reason I could not figure, resulting in D2X not starting.

The most promising thing would be to set up a development environment on a PC having problems with D2X and debugging it there.

Well, I guess this was about 5 times more than you wanted to know. :P
User avatar
Sirius
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5616
Joined: Fri May 28, 1999 2:01 am
Location: Bellevue, WA
Contact:

Post by Sirius »

Heheh... this is another reason why open-source is so useful.

Except it does rely on the person experiencing the bug to be able to track it down and fix it, and most of them can't...
Garak
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Post by Garak »

all true :)
Garak
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Post by Garak »

/damn double post
MD-2389
Defender of the Night
Defender of the Night
Posts: 13477
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Location: Olathe, KS
Contact:

Post by MD-2389 »

Dark Falcon wrote:
Garak wrote:You're welcome :)
Dark Falcon wrote:thanks
I take it the latest dsl helped/fixed your problem?
It gave me an error.

*sweat drop*
Dude, you realize that none of us can read your mind...right? We've got to know what the actual error message is, what hardware you're using, and what you've done to your system. Contrary to popular belief, we cannot pop out of your phone jack and push the magic button that solves all your computer problems. :roll:
User avatar
Tyranny
DBB Defender
DBB Defender
Posts: 3399
Joined: Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

Post by Tyranny »

I think he believes a magic pokemon will fly out of his alss and solve all his problems. It's no wonder he'd believe we can too :P
Garak
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Post by Garak »

You almost made me spill my coffee. That was funny.
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Maybe I should create an error message reading "*sweat drop*" ... :roll: :lol:
MD-2389
Defender of the Night
Defender of the Night
Posts: 13477
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Location: Olathe, KS
Contact:

Post by MD-2389 »

Diedel wrote:Maybe I should create an error message reading "*sweat drop*" ... :roll: :lol:
Tack on an ID10T error while you're at it. ;)
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

Things are getting increasingly rough here ... which, so I'm afraid, will again inevitably lead to the kind of ... "discussion" ... that made me shun this forum for quite a while. :x

Please don't ruin this thread.

@Dark_Falcon,

please tell what error message you were given.
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

it gave me this:
Image
MD-2389
Defender of the Night
Defender of the Night
Posts: 13477
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Location: Olathe, KS
Contact:

Post by MD-2389 »

Which doesn't tell us anything. Next time it crashes, click on the link that would show what file it had a problem with.

Diedel: I see sarcasm isn't your strong suit. :)
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

What about this one:
Image
User avatar
Top Gun
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 8020
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 3:01 am

Post by Top Gun »

That technical information link would probably be of some use too.
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

*sigh*, is this it?:
Image
Garak
DBB Ace
DBB Ace
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Post by Garak »

copy the text and paste it, so we can see it all :)
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

It won't let me copy and paste the text.
User avatar
Diedel
D2X Master
D2X Master
Posts: 5278
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 1998 12:01 pm
Contact:

Post by Diedel »

MD-2389 wrote:Which doesn't tell us anything. Next time it crashes, click on the link that would show what file it had a problem with.

Diedel: I see sarcasm isn't your strong suit. :)
I'm not exactly sure that *you* know what sarcasm is. :P I found your remark a little bit on the rude side. ;)

@Dark_Falcon,

oopsy. I am afraid I cannot help you. This is a "hard" program crash, not D2X running into some assertion, displaying an error message and quitting halfway decently. :( If however I am wrong and there *is* such a message, please write it down on some piece of paper and quote it here. The probability that I can help you in that case is very high.

You do not happen to live in Germany, do you?
User avatar
Sapphire Wolf
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1463
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Nope.avi , gender: male
Contact:

Post by Sapphire Wolf »

Diedel wrote:
MD-2389 wrote:Which doesn't tell us anything. Next time it crashes, click on the link that would show what file it had a problem with.

Diedel: I see sarcasm isn't your strong suit. :)
I'm not exactly sure that *you* know what sarcasm is. :P I found your remark a little bit on the rude side. ;)

@Dark_Falcon,

oopsy. I am afraid I cannot help you. This is a "hard" program crash, not D2X running into some assertion, displaying an error message and quitting halfway decently. :( If however I am wrong and there *is* such a message, please write it down on some piece of paper and quote it here. The probability that I can help you in that case is very high.

You do not happen to live in Germany, do you?
I'm from America.

Okay, I give up!
User avatar
Top Gun
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 8020
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 3:01 am

Post by Top Gun »

Have you tried using the 2.6 version of D2X?
Post Reply