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Don't Nerf The Boss.....

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:41 am
by Stroodles
Recently got D1X, and it works great. One MAJOR problem-the boss 1 (smart missle boss)-is epicly nerfed. He teleports more slowly, fires more slowly, less plasma homing balls, and he does almost 1\\4th of the normal damage. 3 charges with quad lasers kills really ruined the experience for me. Anyone know if there's any way to fix that?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:15 am
by Duper
compared to the DOS version of D1?

The last time you played against the D1 boss described, was it on a newer system? I ask because if the clock speeds are faster, many of the features you described are going to happen quicker. Also, silly question, but were you playing on the same difficulty settings?

Head on over to the Dxx forums and give Zico a holler. You might get a quicker response. I'm interested in hearing what he has to say about this as this is the first I've heard of this. (too many pronouns in that sentence. :roll: )

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:17 am
by Stroodles
I have definitive edition, patched to 1.4a, so I'm going off that. Ya, and it's on all difficulties. The damage is only modded between difficulties for lasers and fireballs in D1.

The original version, each plasma ball did 20 damage, and each rocket did 160.

Currently, a head on rocket does about 60, and the plasma ball does like 10....

the original version, higher difficulties, he would teleport to either side of you incredibly rapidly, currently, his teleport speed doesnt seem to change on other difficulties.

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:26 am
by Krom
Actually I seem to recall somewhere that the L7 boss difficulty was toned down in the original from 1.0 to 1.4(a). It would be impossible to revert back to pre-1.4 difficulty because the only source code released was the final 1.5 code.

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:02 pm
by akula65


Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:17 pm
by Duper
oooOOOooooo nice find!

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:27 pm
by akula65
Stroodles, you might want to get a copy of the Version 1.0 Shareware: ... /playable/

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:58 pm
by Zantor
If you have D1 retail patched to 1.4a, patch it to 1.5. You can find the patch on Planet Descent.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:33 am
by Stroodles
Well, I'm making a level set that has a boss level, and it's really no fun when he's so easy.

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:43 am
by Xfing
I think the thread starter may be seriously exaggerating. I was playing \"The Enemy Within\" just the other day and a direct hit from a non-boss Smart missile-shooting enemy on Trainee killed me instantly. I've always played Descent 1.4a or higher and though the boss was easy, never THAT easy.

I think that this level 7 boss is meant to separate the chaff from the wheat, I mean many people who complain about his difficulty can't even slide. When you learn to slide, he'll never be hard again.

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:30 pm
by Sirius
The Enemy Within is a Descent 2 mission, although I don't know how much is shared between D1X/D2X-R.

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:26 am
by DarkHorse
I'm pretty sure the Golems fire maximum-strength smart missiles. Doesn't surprise me they kill you on Trainee.

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:32 pm
by Xfing
But I gotta admit - the level 7 boss fight in Descent Shareware v. 1.0 is friggin' epic. That's what I call a good challenge.