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Communism’s Bloody Century

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:10 pm
by Nightshade
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"In the 100 years since Lenin’s coup in Russia, the ideology devoted to abolishing markets and private property has left a long, murderous trail of destruction

A century ago this week, communism took over the Russian empire, the world’s largest state at the time. Leftist movements of various sorts had been common in European politics long before the revolution of Oct. 25, 1917 (which became Nov. 7 in the reformed Russian calendar), but Vladimir Lenin and his Bolsheviks were different. They were not merely fanatical in their convictions but flexible in their tactics—and fortunate in their opponents.

Communism entered history as a ferocious yet idealistic condemnation of capitalism, promising a better world. Its adherents, like others on the left, blamed capitalism for the miserable conditions that afflicted peasants and workers alike and for the prevalence of indentured and child labor. Communists saw the slaughter of World War I as a direct result of the rapacious competition among the great powers for overseas markets.

But a century of communism in power—with holdouts even now in Cuba, North Korea and China—has made clear the human cost of a political program bent on overthrowing capitalism. Again and again, the effort to eliminate markets and private property has brought about the deaths of an astounding number of people. Since 1917—in the Soviet Union, China, Mongolia, Eastern Europe, Indochina, Africa, Afghanistan and parts of Latin America—communism has claimed at least 65 million lives, according to the painstaking research of demographers.

Communism’s tools of destruction have included mass deportations, forced labor camps and police-state terror—a model established by Lenin and especially by his successor Joseph Stalin. It has been widely imitated. Though communism has killed huge numbers of people intentionally, even more of its victims have died from starvation as a result of its cruel projects of social engineering.

For these epic crimes, Lenin and Stalin bear personal responsibility, as do Mao Zedong in China, Pol Pot in Cambodia, the Kim dynasty in North Korea and any number of lesser communist tyrants. But we must not lose sight of the ideas that prompted these vicious men to kill on such a vast scale, or of the nationalist context in which they embraced these ideas. Anticapitalism was attractive to them in its own right, but it also served as an instrument, in their minds, for backward countries to leapfrog into the ranks of great powers.

The communist revolution may now be spent, but its centenary, as the great anticapitalist cause, still demands a proper reckoning..."

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Re: Communism’s Bloody Century

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:15 pm
by Tunnelcat
Communism may be dead, but it's given rise to this, a monstrosity called State Capitalism. I always wondered what the Chinese Communist system had morphed into as of late, because they still refer to themselves as Communists, and the link below now answers that. It's a new creation formed by the forced marriage of 2 formerly thought-to-be-incompatible economic systems. What's troubling is that the U.S. may have trouble competing against this monster in the world arena. Such a system in our own country would be nearly impossible to stomach with our current American anti-government psyche running amok anyway. :wink:

http://www.economist.com/node/21543160

Re: Communism’s Bloody Century

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:44 pm
by Krom
In China the government owns corporations, in America the corporations own the government. Good luck finding any significant difference in outcome between the two, especially as China matures.

Re: Communism’s Bloody Century

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:44 am
by callmeslick
where is Capitalism's Bloody Two Centuries??? Or maybe something tilled,"the Holocaust of Christian Conquest"??

Re: Communism’s Bloody Century

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:29 am
by Spidey
Except that capitalism is not a political system, and Christianity as a political system hasn’t killed masses of people in some time.

As you look through history, it has always been political systems responsible for mass killings…not so much economic systems.

Also…how many times must it be pointed out that a bad act by one party does not excuse a bad act by another party, if you don’t believe me, look it up in the law under mitigating circumstances.

Sometimes I wonder if anything can be discussed without the old standby “well they did it too, nah nah nah”.

Maybe there should be a law for that like there is for bringing up Nazis.