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Atheist self-destruct?

Post by Nightshade » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:43 pm

When an atheist group advocates openly for religion to invade the space of others, I think they're not atheists anymore.

French 'Free Thought' Atheist Group That Demanded Cross Removal Defends Muslim Street Prayers
In an alarming twist, a French secularist organization is championing the "free exercise of religion" for Muslims praying on the street in a Paris suburb, right after the same group cheered the removal of a cross from a monument to Pope John Paul II. The secularist group condemned a large protest against street prayers as a secretly racist attack on Muslims.

"It is the Union of Muslim Associations of Clichy which respects secularism," the National Federation of Free Thought (FNLP) declared in a press release. The group defended street prayers as a necessary protest against the Paris suburb of Clichy la Garenne, which is "calling into question the free exercise of religion."

The Union of Muslim Clichy Associations (UAMC) started the street prayers after the closing of a prayer room, which the UAMC claimed hosted daily meetings with "between 3,000 and 5,000 faithful," according to the French paper Le Monde. UAMC rented the premises from the town hall since 2013, when Socialist Mayor Gilles Catoire turned the location into a place of worship.

The lease expired in July 2016, and Republican Mayor Rémi Muzeau (elected in 2015) decided not to renew it. He repurposed the location for a media library. AUMC refused to remove the premises, despite a decision to expel them in August 2016, confirmed by a higher court in November 2016.

Police cleared the Muslims from the premises on March 21. Ever since, the UAMC has organized street prayers every Friday in front of the town hall.

Earlier this month, a hundred protesters — including elected officials, members of the Republican Party (not to be confused with America's Republican Party), the Union of Democrats and Independents (UDI), and National Front — marched behind a banner reading, "Stop the illegal street prayers." Protesters chanted, "No cult, France is secular!"

Ironically, the National Federation of Free Thought took the side of the Muslims praying in the street, denouncing Mayor Muzeau's actions as "contrary to secularism."
https://pjmedia.com/faith/french-free-t ... t-prayers/

They remind me of the Vichy French of WWII, being OK with betraying everything they supposedly stand for to bow before the new occupying power (islam in this case.)
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Re: Atheist self-destruct?

Post by vision » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:53 pm

Are you qualified to discuss the legal workings of France's government?
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Re: Atheist self-destruct?

Post by callmeslick » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:16 am

Thanksgiving Day, and THREE freaking hate posts out of the fascist corner of the DBB. Lovely. The rest of you, the normal types, have a great Thanksgiving. Back to cooking, here!
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Post by Tunnelcat » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:46 pm

callmeslick wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:16 am
Thanksgiving Day, and THREE freaking hate posts out of the fascist corner of the DBB. Lovely. The rest of you, the normal types, have a great Thanksgiving. Back to cooking, here!
Perfect time to bring on a turkey and stuffing tryptophan induced coma right about now. :mrgreen:
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Re: Atheist self-destruct?

Post by Nightshade » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:29 pm

callmeslick wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:16 am
hate posts out of the fascist corner of the DBB.
I haven't seen you make any of your usual fascist posts lately other than a few replies slick. And let's be clear- [Deleted - Personal Shot].
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Re: Atheist self-destruct?

Post by callmeslick » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:16 am

bullshit, served steaming hot by TB as always. Oh, I mean NS.....why DID you change names again?
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Re: Atheist self-destruct?

Post by Xfing » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:19 pm

AFAIK France still legally prohibits outward wearing of conspicuous religious symbols in schools, so they're being pretty consistent. There was never a law against public prayers. A religious symbol is something everyone has to see at all times, while prayer is an activity - hardly comparable IMO.
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Post by Tunnelcat » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:24 pm

A fascist is a follower of a political philosophy characterized by authoritarian views and a strong central government — and no tolerance for opposing opinions.
No NS, you're not correct and using a definition to call someone a name still doesn't get a pass. Now slick can correct me if I'm wrong, but perhaps he likes the idea of a strong central government, but I'm quit sure his ideal is a strong government that functions for the benefit of the people. Our current government is bought and paid for by big business and the corporations, certainly not for the everyday American. I'm quite certain he definitely doesn't agree with authoritarian views, unlike our current egomaniac of a president, Donald Trump, who you voted for by the way, and who even believes the Justice Department should be under his purview. As for not tolerating opposing views, that's a laugh. Having opposing views and being able to voice them without censorship is the hallmark of Democracy, both his and your opinions by the way. But actively trying to suppress or control those opposing views, especially the free press, is the hallmark of Fascist and Dictatorial governments, yet another disturbing trait of the current Trump presidency. :wink:
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Post by Nightshade » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:50 pm

Xfing wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:19 pm
AFAIK France still legally prohibits outward wearing of conspicuous religious symbols in schools, so they're being pretty consistent. There was never a law against public prayers. A religious symbol is something everyone has to see at all times, while prayer is an activity - hardly comparable IMO.
The religious symbol ban in schools sounds sensible...but invading a public space and BLOCKING people from going about their daily lives to forcibly subject them to your religious bullshit is different.
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Re: Atheist self-destruct?

Post by woodchip » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:58 am

vision wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:53 pm
Are you qualified to discuss the legal workings of France's government?
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