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P4 Heatsink..which do I get?

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I know nothing about P4's, and I have a chip+mobo that needs a heatsink. It's a 3.0ghz Socket 478 Prescott, and the mobo is a Asus P4P800E (deluxe) 865PE. What heatsink can I put on that? Watercooling is not an option. I'm looking for what Krom/Stress would put on their chip, not :x Aceface :x. Thanks!
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big-ass heavy copper heatsink.

or that big-ass aluminimum stock HS that intel provides.
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how about a vapochill micro?
http://www.bit-tech.net/feature/77/
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zalman cpns7000a-cu. I've got one on my rig now, very quiet and quite effective for some minor overclocking.
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The ThermalTake Silent Tower is a nice unit and mounts to any mobo that is drilled. This big puppy bolts on.
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Even better is a Thermalright XP-120. http://hi-techreviews.com/nuke/xp120/page_1.htm
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Re: P4 Heatsink..which do I get?

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Testiculese wrote:I'm looking for what Krom/Stress would put on their chip, not :x Aceface :x. Thanks!

KMFWA!!

im looking at getting either one of these:

Cooler Master Aero 4 Lite CPU Cooler for Intel P4 478, Model "DI4-7J74F"

Dynatron 70mm CPU Cooler for Intel P4 Socket 478, Model D3A

Spire CopperStream II CPU Cooler For Socket 478 CPU, Model "SP420B8-2"


those are the three im debating over.
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Ferno wrote:Even better is a Thermalright XP-120. http://hi-techreviews.com/nuke/xp120/page_1.htm
I second that.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Ferno wrote:Even better is a Thermalright XP-120. http://hi-techreviews.com/nuke/xp120/page_1.htm
I second that.
3rd

Or the XP-90, I run the XP-90 on my A64 3200 with a 74CFM 92mm Delta

And its compatible with the P4P800E
XP-120 Socket 478 Motherboard Compatibility Information

http://www.overclockers.com/articles1043/
http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page ... ightxp-120
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getart ... rticID=220

Places for decent prices:
Sidewindercomputers -XP-90 This is where I bought mine
Sidewindercomputers -XP-120
Heatsinkfactory -XP-120
And you can't forget the AS5!

Ace what are those crapass HS's? Do u just browse newegg and look for the cheapest ones that look cool?
cooler master?!?!? Pssh, I wouldnâ??t put that on my calculator... And I've never even herd of Dynatron before but I'm sure it sucks...
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That Dynatron looks like a 2U server heatsink... 49.8 dba? o_O
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OK, since you posted those, Ace, I know what I'm *not* getting, thanks for helping me filter them out! :) edit::morbid curiosity got me..I looked at your links. You can't possibly be serious, Ace.

Thanks to others for model numbers and links. I think the XP-90 should do just fine. It's looks like an engine.Going to be interesting to see just how this hooks on the chip.

Newegg has it, which is perfect, since I've already pumped many thou$and$ through them. On sale too!
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Post by Matrix »

OoooOOOoOoOOoOOOo

All Copper XP-90 just came out

XP-90C

haha and its 690grams! heavy SOB
The alum XP-90 is only 360g, and the XP-120 is 370g
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BAAL wrote:zalman cpns7000a-cu. I've got one on my rig now, very quiet and quite effective for some minor overclocking.
I'd second this. Extremely quiet, and very effective. The CNPS7000B-Cu is the latest revision. Same thing really though.

http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/vi ... 1&code=009

Works great on my P4P800.
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I'll definitely be getting a few of them for myself, Trix :) Man, 700 grams..does it come with flying buttresses?
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Testiculese wrote:I'll definitely be getting a few of them for myself, Trix :) Man, 700 grams..does it come with flying buttresses?
No. but it does come with a wide-load sticker
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I'll give the sticker to Ace, then.
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haha
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lol
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Testiculese wrote:You can't possibly be serious, Ace.
x 2
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Matrix wrote:Ace what are those crapass HS's? Do u just browse newegg and look for the cheapest ones that look cool?
cooler master?!?!? Pssh, I wouldnâ??t put that on my calculator... And I've never even herd of Dynatron before but I'm sure it sucks...

and WTF does it matter to you, what i get for my system? does it affect you in any way? does it affect your systems performance? does it take any of YOUR money? am i a filthy rich slob? no


my point...............


STFU!! about what i put in my system!

Testiculese wrote:OK, since you posted those, Ace, I know what I'm *not* getting, thanks for helping me filter them out! :) edit::morbid curiosity got me..I looked at your links. You can't possibly be serious, Ace.

very funny, a$$hat
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haha, well I said something because u should be ashamed for even thinking of buying that crap :P

I'm pretty sure that the retail coolers that come with CPU will do a much better job then those.
But hey, its ur computer :P

And its just fun to bust on ya :P
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Ace, nobody is filing a complaint about what you are putting in your system, it's your computer and you can put whatever crap you want into it. What we are complaing about is you giving bad advice to people. You can use a wad of tin foil for your heatsink for all we care, just don't tell anyone else to try it too! :P
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Ace, I suggest you read the reviews of the heatsinks you linked to. They weren't exactly positive.
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MD-2389 wrote:Ace, I suggest you read the reviews of the heatsinks you linked to. They weren't exactly positive.

okay lets see:

The Cooler Master HS:
newegg Cooler Master reviews wrote:

Colt,3/22/2005 8:02:08 PM
I bought this fan and heatsink along with a p4 3.2ghz processor and it works fairly well. It's slighty loud when on full blast but at idle it runs 40C at around 2700rmp. Would suggest to others.

N/A,2/20/2005 6:09:33 PM

With my purchase of this fan i also bought a p4 3ghz. Don't get me wrong the fan is great but, i overclocked my cpu and need a more powerful fan. During heavy gaming like doom3 on high settings or farcry, the sound will go away because the cpu heats up too much. I recomend a better fan if u plan on overclocking but otherwise, cooler master has done a fine job. Oh, and thanks newegg.


Rami,2/9/2005 11:37:54 AM

Basicly got it for a temp solution till i finish building my case and peltier watercooling setup. but to my suprise this little cooler allows my p4 3gig to run at 3600mhz stable. 46 deg idle 48 full load. at idle and low fan speed it idles 46-47. very very impressed.


scientist,1/20/2005 8:29:03 PM

Works great and looks great too!

Overclocked 2.5ghz to 3,0ghz with a little arctic silver in there. Idles at 34C and maxes out at 45C. It gets loud around 100% but once you hit 70% i cant tell a difference from anything lower. A++


Nathan,1/19/2005 6:46:16 AM

I have a 3.2ghz Presscot, arctic silver 5, and have the heatsink maxed out all the time and my temperature is at 65C and 55C idle. I do ALOT of intense gaming on HL2 and Source and I only have 1 case fan and ive only used my heatsink 2 days so far so I guess the arctic silver 5 hasnt fused yet.

looks pretty good for reviews......... 5 good reviews :roll:


Dynatron has no review............. no comments here


Spire Copperstream II
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I purchased this cooler 3 months ago to cut costs on my first build, only expecting slight improvments over the oem fan/heatsink but this cheap little cooler keeps a P4 2.4c (northwood) that is at 2.74ghz around 20c at boot and 27c after 1 hour of hl2. But this cooler is quite noisy (took my lian li pc-65b from being virtually silent to "hear it in the hallway")and it cheap looks. It may preform well on my northwood but when i decide to get a 3.2 prescott I'll probably try something new.




skellington,1/11/2005 1:54:36 AM

Decent price, nice big heatsink, and easy to install. The reason it gets a 3 from me is that it is WAY louder than it states. I have other fans that are supposed to be louder than this, but this one drowns them out. For those of you who don't care about that, it's a great product. But if you're looking for some quick noise reduction solutions, this isn't it. No complaints about newegg though; they are consistently the best of the best.


N/A,7/13/2004 6:35:27 AM

Just installed this on my 3.0GHz P4 Gigabyte Mobo system. I had been using the standard Intel supplied fan previously and had not been able to do anything processor intensive because it was rocketing beyond 70 Centigrade in less than five minutes of 100% CPU usage.

I have been rendering video with it for a solid hour now and the temp is still hovering between 53 and 54 C. In the fifteen years I've been messing around with computers at home I can't ever remember getting such a major improvement for such little money.

Big thumbs up to Spire Cooling - the product is nicely packaged, looks good, nice and quiet and so much easier to install than the standard Intel. They even include a little syringe with just enough thermal paste. And it really works!!
well...... 1 bad 2 good....................


uhhh yeah MD, all but 2 of those reviews have 5 stars and good reports


why do i have to be soo f00king literal with you ?
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I think he meant for you google for some reviews.

like, ya know, DO RESEARCH.
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Post by Matrix »

ace, newegg reviews dont mean crap
newegg removes the bad reviews that people leave, and probably make some of their own :P

use real tech sites for reviews
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Yeah, newegg filters all their reviews, just read the fine print.
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Cooler Master HS:
"46 deg idle 48 full load"
"It's slighty loud"
" It gets loud around"
"temperature is at 65C and 55C"

You call that good reviews?

"this cheap little cooler...this cooler is quite noisy...cheap looks...I'll probably try something new"
" it is WAY louder than it states...this one drowns them out."
" between 53 and 54 C"

Good reviews? It's cheap ★■◆● with reviews stating as such or written by a few noobs.

Your 'rebuttal' wasn't very effective :)
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Testiculese wrote: "this cheap little cooler...this cooler is quite noisy...cheap looks...I'll probably try something new"
" it is WAY louder than it states...this one drowns them out."
" between 53 and 54 C"

i said that was the bad one.
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Post by Matrix »

The stuff you picked out sucks ass. Either and admit it and stfu, or just stfu.
You have like 5 people against you, and your still arguing.
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Post by Testiculese »

Well, Ace, where's the good one?? :P

Thanks Ferno and Trixie. It's all installed and sexy.
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Testiculese wrote:Well, Ace, where's the good one?? :P

Thanks Ferno and Trixie. It's all installed and sexy.
I demand pictures! Since we can't get pictures of a demolished monitor like we were promised, we should atleast get pics of your rig. :)
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Demolished monitor..I said no such thing?

I don't have a digicam, and it's not my machine anyway, I was building it for someone else. My machine (Seen in pieces in the back of this shot) is much nicer anyway!
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Testiculese wrote:Demolished monitor..I said no such thing?
He's talking about something that happened in a different thread.
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Matrix wrote:
Testiculese wrote:Demolished monitor..I said no such thing?
He's talking about something that happened in a different thread.
thread in question

Nice rig there Testi! ;) I see you implimented your beer cooler rather nicely. Pity you're stuck with imputing instructions in hex via stickypads. :P
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