says you, despite the provable fact that tens of thousands of women remain with physically abusive husbands, let alone cheaters. You suggest staying with him was 'avoiding a tough decision'? Gee, given how much crap she's taken over the years for doing so, that's sort of an odd assertion, isn't it?woodchip wrote:Any normal woman would of divorced him years again.
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Curious how you defend Hillary by bringing up abused women. I seriously don't think she suffers from the battered wife syndrome. And yes staying with him shows she can't make a decision that may affect her political career.callmeslick wrote:says you, despite the provable fact that tens of thousands of women remain with physically abusive husbands, let alone cheaters. You suggest staying with him was 'avoiding a tough decision'? Gee, given how much crap she's taken over the years for doing so, that's sort of an odd assertion, isn't it?woodchip wrote:Any normal woman would of divorced him years again.
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If you wish to make a case for your take, you're welcome to make it on PM.Ferno wrote:au contraire, I understand it more than you do, apparently.
I'm judging that all of those groups have no objective source of morality - which does relegate you to empathy, and leaves you open to excusing crimes against those with whom you don't empathize. There is nothing that says that empathy and moral codes are mutually exclusive - so with the Bible I can both have empathy and have an objective reason for which to have said empathy. I'm not saying that all these groups have performed the same level of crimes... but I am saying that leaving our morality to just empathy, common sense, or respect leaves you without an objective argument to use against crimes against humanity.Ferno wrote:And speaking of misunderstanding, I noticed you slipped in Atheism in with slavers, nazis and supremacists. That's extremely dismissive and pretentious... another thing that the bible says for you not to do. You know.. "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again". If you need a religious text to determine right or wrong, you lack empathy.
Would you like to be judged the same way you're judging Atheists?
Note that I never (directly) made that argument. I argued that your philosophy is the source of your morality... which is simply saying that what you believe about existence will inform what you believe about how you should behave toward those around you. Similarly, you do indeed have a theology (a belief about God - which can very well be that you believe He doesn't exist), and what you believe about God does indeed also inform your morality... even a belief that it's irrelevant in indeed a belief about it. (Or, a belief that it's wrong and misguides you is still a belief.) Yet... this is all addressing a misunderstanding of what the argument was in the first place.tunnelcat wrote:Snoopy, you're never going to convince me that religion and theology are requirements for morality.
Vision said "Theology is not the source of morality" - I disagree: specifically what I believe about God has a very large effect on how I believe I should treat those around me. Generally, what a person believes about God, as part of their larger beliefs about existence, drives how that person believes they should behave toward others.
You said: "Theology is not morality" - I agree. The study of God is not the same thing as the study of how we should behave toward each other. They do, however, have relevance to each other.
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I'm not voting for Bill, or his wife, nor am I defending what he did. I'm after the current slimebag running for office, Trump. Plus, Clinton didn't brag about it to a entertainment personality like he was proud of his conquests. But all the nastiness surrounding both of these perverts has spawned a new lesson that parents need to give their young daughters. It's called (courtesy of Dan Savage):woodchip wrote:And I'll match yours with what Hillary"s husband did:tunnelcat wrote:Oh, I'd just love to see Rush's outrage if he were crotch groped in public by some leering gay man, or even sexually groped by the person sitting next to him on an airliner, like Trump did to this woman.
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OK, how about the reverse, from a science perspective. There's no way to prove either side of the argument.snoopy wrote:Note that I never (directly) made that argument. I argued that your philosophy is the source of your morality... which is simply saying that what you believe about existence will inform what you believe about how you should behave toward those around you. Similarly, you do indeed have a theology (a belief about God - which can very well be that you believe He doesn't exist), and what you believe about God does indeed also inform your morality... even a belief that it's irrelevant in indeed a belief about it. (Or, a belief that it's wrong and misguides you is still a belief.) Yet... this is all addressing a misunderstanding of what the argument was in the first place.tunnelcat wrote:Snoopy, you're never going to convince me that religion and theology are requirements for morality.
Vision said "Theology is not the source of morality" - I disagree: specifically what I believe about God has a very large effect on how I believe I should treat those around me. Generally, what a person believes about God, as part of their larger beliefs about existence, drives how that person believes they should behave toward others.
You said: "Theology is not morality" - I agree. The study of God is not the same thing as the study of how we should behave toward each other. They do, however, have relevance to each other.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/god-mo ... d=18898993Are we moral because we believe in God, or do we believe in God because we are moral?
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