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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ana ... li=BBnbcA1

oh, those dirty nasty Muslims. ISIS cannot ask for greater success than to trigger this sort of stuff.
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I’m curious, which religion do you think inspired this religious hate crime?
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dunno. Some might BLAME Christians, but that wouldn't be any fairer than blaming Islam for ISIS. Inspiration to the fanatical, insane and/or desperate shouldn't be carried too far.
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another radical recruitment tool, here in the US:

http://jezebel.com/seventeen-year-old-m ... socialflow
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Absolutely disgusting. And anyone who turns a blind eye to or supports that sort of thing is just as disgusting.
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callmeslick wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ana ... li=BBnbcA1

oh, those dirty nasty Muslims. ISIS cannot ask for greater success than to trigger this sort of stuff.
A terrorized population will lash out (as slick/Vander/etc have implied as the motivation for islamic terrorism.)

However- this man was a lone actor motivated by supposed vengeance and NOT motivated by a religion that mandates the death or subjugation of infidels.
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Nightshade wrote: However- this man was a lone actor motivated by supposed vengeance and NOT motivated by a religion that mandates the death or subjugation of infidels.
ahahahaha you are too ★■◆●ing much
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Nightshade wrote:......NOT motivated by a religion that mandates the death or subjugation of infidels.
no religion I'm aware of does so. Return to cowering in your dark corner of ignorance.
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callmeslick wrote:no religion I'm aware of does so. Return to cowering in your dark corner of ignorance.
Never more ironic words spoken by a naive infidel.
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NS, you've been warning of my imminent demise for a while now. At this point I view you, your posts and your little narrowminded fears as amusing. Nothing a BIT more. :lol:
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Nightshade wrote: A terrorized population will lash out (as slick/Vander/etc have implied as the motivation for islamic terrorism.)
Kind of like what you're doing right now?
However- this man was a lone actor motivated by supposed vengeance and NOT motivated by a religion that mandates the death or subjugation of infidels.

This coming from the guy who screams how Islam is evil? You're going to give this guy a pass for what is clearly religiously motivated terrorism?

Guess terrorism, hate crimes and outright bigotry and xenophobia is okay, as long as the guy is on your side.

"Oh, oh, oh, but it's just a lone actor!" You say. Just how many "lone actors is it going to take before you realize these are not lone actors. Actually, don't answer that. I already know -- it's going to take just one when someone you know is attacked by one of these 'lone actors'.

And then all bets are off. And I'll be here saying: I told you so.
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Yea, and there is a pretty good chance the religion that motivated this guy is Islam.

Unless you believe hatred can only come from ones own religion. (you in general, not just Ferno)
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Ferno wrote:This coming from the guy who screams how Islam is evil? You're going to give this guy a pass for what is clearly religiously motivated terrorism?
What religion motivated him to attack muslims?
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what a marvelous two-step, Spidey and NS!!! Lessee now, hundreds of years of Christian oppression and colonialization of the Middle East creates folks who use Islam as some rationale to fight back. Blame Islam.
Guy lashes out after the above group fights back. Blame Islam.

No, Christianity has NOTHING to do with any of this, right?? Sorry, that bull★■◆●, and a piss poor set of arguments and rationales you're exercising.
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callmeslick wrote:what a marvelous two-step, Spidey and NS!!! Lessee now, hundreds of years of Christian oppression and colonialization of the Middle East creates folks who use Islam as some rationale to fight back. Blame Islam.
Guy lashes out after the above group fights back. Blame Islam.

No, Christianity has NOTHING to do with any of this, right?? Sorry, that bull★■◆●, and a piss poor set of arguments and rationales you're exercising.
You can point this out until you're blue in the face slick, but Christians and Western Civilization in general will never take the blame for the hatred that the Muslim world now harbors towards us. Like Spidey pointed out at one time, as little as 3 centuries ago, Islam was not at war with Christianity nor with the Western world.
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Nightshade wrote:
Ferno wrote:This coming from the guy who screams how Islam is evil? You're going to give this guy a pass for what is clearly religiously motivated terrorism?
What religion motivated him to attack muslims?

Okay, you know what?

★■◆● your loaded question, I'm not even touching it. There are other factors at play, but oh no... you laser-focus on one thing and don't care about anything else.

Let me ask you the same question. Did a pop bottle motivate a person to murder someone in the street?
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What a load of bull★■◆● slick…what we are talking about here is ‘one mans’ motivation, not some ad-hoc chicken egg history lesson.
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Spidey wrote:What a load of bull★■◆● slick…what we are talking about here is ‘one mans’ motivation, not some ad-hoc chicken egg history lesson.

Nah, it's not bull★■◆● dude.

It's not like this guy was walking along, saw the Qu'ran on the side of the road, picked it up, read it and suddenly went 'KILL ALL NONBELIEVERS!'. It doesn't work that way and it's never worked that way. Somebody had to have put that idea into this guys' head.
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callmeslick wrote:what a marvelous two-step, Spidey and NS!!! Lessee now, hundreds of years of Christian oppression and colonialization of the Middle East creates folks who use Islam as some rationale to fight back. Blame Islam.
Guy lashes out after the above group fights back. Blame Islam.

No, Christianity has NOTHING to do with any of this, right?? Sorry, that bull★■◆●, and a piss poor set of arguments and rationales you're exercising.
Spidey asked what indications religion motivated the guy. Did he scream "Glory to God" as he ran people down? Or is this another one of your flailing attempts to misdirect?
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Nightshade wrote: However- this man was a lone actor motivated by supposed vengeance and NOT motivated by a religion that mandates the death or subjugation of infidels.
ahahahaha you are too ★■◆●ing much
I see you are masking your ignorance by another lame response.
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woodchip wrote:Spidey asked what indications religion motivated the guy. Did he scream "Glory to God" as he ran people down? Or is this another one of your flailing attempts to misdirect?
he yelled crap about killing 'as many of you' as possible, near a mosque. Blame Islam.
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But you were the one that called it a “religious hate crime” I was just asking an honest question.

Maybe Satan told him to kill Muslims.

Or maybe it was The Buddha.

You indicted religion, then bailed when asked to clarify.
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callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:Spidey asked what indications religion motivated the guy. Did he scream "Glory to God" as he ran people down? Or is this another one of your flailing attempts to misdirect?
he yelled crap about killing 'as many of you' as possible, near a mosque. Blame Islam.
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Why does it matter anyway? Killing people purely out of hate is no different than killing people because of their religion, race, creed or other trait. Whites kill blacks and blacks kill whites in this country all the time, all because they harbor racial hatred towards one another. People kill just because someone else is different. Doing it in God's name is no better or worse of a reason than any other. Murder is murder, plain and simple. It violates everything we value about tolerance and freedom. Responding in kind only encourages more revenge killing. It may make some people feel better, but it doesn't fix the root problem, hate. If we humans can't address that, we're doomed because the killing will keep right on happening. It's a vicious circle of tit for tat. Sometimes I think we humans are nothing a failed experiment that's beginning to run away and overheat, exploding in a grand extinction.

Plus, the assailant was damn lucky to escape with his life. An angry crowd surrounded him when he got out of the vehicle and tried to run. A concerned local Imam helped contact the police and keep the angry and volatile crowd from taking vengeance.

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my only beef was the 'religion' blame game, TC.
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That you started.
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Mooooom! He hit me first! :roll:
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Are you sure that applies here?
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woodchip wrote: I see you are masking your ignorance by another lame response.
Unlike some of you nutjob fearmongers, the rest of us are able to take a dispassionate look at Islam and the people who practice it without flying into frothing hysterics. Run along little one, the big kids are talking.
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Spidey wrote:Are you sure that applies here?
Maybe if you 2 quit sparring over a minor quibble. :wink:
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This is what happens when people take anti-muslim sentiment and puts it into action.

http://rare.us/rare-news/whats-wrong-wi ... 41b85aaeb5
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There are some really sick people in this world Ferno. :shock:

But what's really scary is that a person is more likely to die in a road rage incident than from the actions of a terrorist. In other words, some other American who may have IED (I kid you not, it's called intermittent explosive disorder), is far more likely to get into a violent altercation and kill another driver just because that other driver made a simple mistake on the road. And the problem is getting worse.

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Self driving cars can't come soon enough.
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but what if Liberals and Muslims do the coding and AI designs? Driverless coffins for right-thinking Americans. The horror! :wink:
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Ferno wrote:This is what happens when people take anti-muslim sentiment and puts it into action.

http://rare.us/rare-news/whats-wrong-wi ... 41b85aaeb5
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No truer words were spoken.
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Krom wrote:Self driving cars can't come soon enough.
Until some nut-bag hacks 50 thousand of them at once and kills thousands...
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They can already do that now with the current technology in most modern cars already on the road.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/ca ... ed-feature
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That article is almost 6 years old, while I wouldn't say we are completely out of the woods yet, at least it isn't as bad today as it was back then. Newer vehicles have had some proper consideration put into securing their firmware and internal networks. At least to the level that compromising thousands of vehicles is beyond the scope of what is possible for "some nut-bag". (Organized criminals and state actors remain a cause for concern.)
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Tunnelcat wrote:They can already do that now with the current technology in most modern cars already on the road.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/ca ... ed-feature
Imagine ransomware taking over your car. $10 a trip or we fry your car...etc.
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Yea....I was using the term loosely.
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