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Are we all guilty by virtue of simply being human beings living on the same planet? - Because that is the inevitable and logical end of being guilty by association.



And the web of EVVVVIL Youtube "Influencers" all tied to WHITE SUPREMACISTS... Which include it seems- a Jewish guy, a gay guy, a transsexual and a few black or mixed race people. Rather diverse for white supremacists.

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Anyone brave enough to watch a few minutes of this and report to the rest of us on just how batshit stupid it is?
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Top Gun wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:20 pm Anyone brave enough to watch a few minutes of this and report to the rest of us on just how batshit stupid it is?
Bet you won't be brave enough to watch this one:

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No, I'd rather keep my brain cells intact.
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Nightshade wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:33 pm
Bet you won't be brave enough to watch this one:

I watched it. I guess I don’t understand how that makes me brave. I’ve pretty much seen this video re-hashed a dozen times on tha intanet. I’ve also seen counter point videos to this one a dozen times on tha internet. They’re all produced by nameless, faceless people who use graphics of the Stars and Stripes overlayed on a Soviet sickle and hammer. It doesn’t mean anything to me, it doesn’t scare me into any emotion. I’m a middle aged man who looks at things in a (I’d like to think) measured way.

Some panic trumpet video showing graphics of Nosferatu in a shiny halter top or a butch obese girl with blue hair isn’t going to change my view on what I believe are human rights. I mean it’s complete broad brushing issues to extremes in some attempt to paint “the left” as delusional maniacs. That’s not how people think - people who aren’t on fringes or reactionary view the world pragmatically. They don’t get dragged into this garbage back and forth bad hip hop distrack crap.

How many of these videos can you watch before you do anything about ANYTHING? It’s just pressing play on a video and getting your underwear in a bunch - you’re not doing anything about ANYTHING. You’re pasting this ★■◆● on a message board. You’re not affecting change in any meaningful way at all.

So, I watched the video and I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m going to make some pancakes now. I’ve had my fill of base politics 101 by some guy that is afraid to leave his house because some leftist transgender immigrant is going to force him to vote for a candidate in a men’s bathroom at a rest stop in Idaho or some ★■◆● and symbols on flags and blah blah fuckin blah..
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As I said in another thread, TB's personalized youtube feed is probably loaded with these ★■◆● clickbait videos because google/facebook/twitter/etc knows he watches them and shares them. And because he shares them you can tell it has influenced him deeply and he buys into it all. He says "I question everything" which is a big line of bull★■◆●, if he was really questioning things he wouldn't be posting blatant extremist conservative propaganda as if it was the gospel truth all the ★■◆●ing time. He's been getting spoon fed that ★■◆● by unthinking machine algorithms for so long he probably doesn't even realize how distorted his perception has become.
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Seriously. You can also see it in how he labels even moderately conservative positions as "radical leftist." His perspective is so absurdly skewed that he's a self-parody.
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TheWhat wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:49 am How many of these videos can you watch before you do anything about ANYTHING? It’s just pressing play on a video and getting your underwear in a bunch - you’re not doing anything about ANYTHING. You’re pasting this ★■◆● on a message board. You’re not affecting change in any meaningful way at all.
No more than you're changing anything by posting on this board either. So what?

Anyway, it's clear that I'm the only one here currently posting on this board that's to the right of Stalin. Why should I expect anything less than hysterical fits by people stuck in a left wing bubble?

If you really don't care about these posts and they're not changing anything, you can just ignore them. Seems you care enough to read and respond.

The way I affect change in the real world has nothing to do with this board. This is merely entertainment. :)
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Krom wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:14 am And because he shares them you can tell it has influenced him deeply and he buys into it all. He says "I question everything" which is a big line of bull★■◆●, if he was really questioning things he wouldn't be posting blatant extremist conservative propaganda as if it was the gospel truth all the ★■◆●ing time.
Many of these youtube video creators would bristle at being called 'conservative' Krom. "The left left me." Many of them considered themselves "left wing" before.

It seems that leftists that are moving radically leftward today reflexively call anyone 'radically conservative' or nazi if they don't tow the radical left's propaganda.

Today people are running as SOCIALISTS. Not too long ago the democrat party shunned that label...now they're EMBRACING it. I'm sure you're old enough to remember that.

Leftists in protests today even carry around placards of communist mass murderers as if they're religious icons:

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Nightshade wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:30 pm Anyway, it's clear that I'm the only one here currently posting on this board that's to the right of Stalin. Why should I expect anything less than hysterical fits by people stuck in a left wing bubble?
I can only speak for myself but I’m guessing EVERYONE on the dbb is right of Stalin. You’re prolly joking. Although, I don’t know if it really makes a difference what you call a mass murderer who likely is responsible for the deaths of 50 million+ people. It’s far beyond politics at that point; right/left rhetoric is just a window dressing excuse for a totalitarian god wanna-be.

Leftist bubble? Ok? The video I was so “brave” to watch focused much on “identity politics”. I absolutely AGREE that that tactic is completely outta hand in a lot of cases. I don’t think it’s out of line to point that out. But lumping things together for your convenience should be pointed out as well.

Concern for your friends/relatives/humans basic dignity is NOT the same as thinking it’s reasonable to have to learn 93 new gender pronouns so a sliver of the population “feel safe” - I can introduce you to 10 gay people who think that’s stupid - and I live in Gayland Minneapolis, nobody thinks that. Just like a gun owner who is concerned about gun legislation does not automatically have an arsenal of 40,000 rounds and 80 guns - most of them are hunters - in Hunterland Minnesota.

It’s broad brushing yammering that everyone does. If you actually sat down with most people you would probably agree on most things. They pull out extreme examples “for entertainment”, but most people agree you shouldn’t drunk drive the wrong way down an interstate at 105 miles an hour. :roll:

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TheWhat wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:25 pm Leftist bubble? Ok? The video I was so “brave” to watch focused much on “identity politics”. I absolutely AGREE that that tactic is completely outta hand in a lot of cases. I don’t think it’s out of line to point that out. But lumping things together for your convenience should be pointed out as well.
It won't be long before you'll be called a nazi. Just wait a few more months.
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Nah we just call real Nazis Nazis. Like you, for instance.
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Top Gun wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:07 pm Nah we just call real Nazis Nazis. Like you, for instance.
...and how am I a nazi?
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You lean closer to Nazis purely by the virtue you listened to his superlative-laden rally rants and STILL voted for Herr Trump. Plus, you agree wholeheartedly with the storm trooper tactics and propaganda he's been using during the implementation of his wonderful and humane immigration policies.
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Tunnelcat wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:51 pm You lean closer to Nazis purely by the virtue you listened to his superlative-laden rally rants and STILL voted for Herr Trump. Plus, you agree wholeheartedly with the storm trooper tactics and propaganda he's been using during the implementation of his wonderful and humane immigration policies.
"Storm trooper" tactics like family separation? Excuse me, but that was happening under Obama after the Ninth Circuit Court in all its wisdom mandated child separation from illegal alien parents caught at the border.

If you're going to blame Trump for family separations, you should also blame the disaster that was the Obama administration.

Are you a nazi for having voted for Obama and/or democrats that appointed the judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals?
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Nightshade wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:05 pm
Top Gun wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:07 pm Nah we just call real Nazis Nazis. Like you, for instance.
...and how am I a nazi?
I don't see anyone else here cumming over concentration camps.
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Top Gun wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:04 pm
I don't see anyone else here cumming over concentration camps.
No. Just you it seems. I've got Jewish ancestry- don't try that bull5hit with me.
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That makes your stance all the more heinous.
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Top Gun wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:10 pm That makes your stance all the more heinous.
I can't stand you whiteboy leftists and your false sympathies for "brown people" like me.
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You have absolutely no sympathy for "brown people," so someone has to.
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Nightshade wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:02 pm
Tunnelcat wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:51 pm You lean closer to Nazis purely by the virtue you listened to his superlative-laden rally rants and STILL voted for Herr Trump. Plus, you agree wholeheartedly with the storm trooper tactics and propaganda he's been using during the implementation of his wonderful and humane immigration policies.
"Storm trooper" tactics like family separation? Excuse me, but that was happening under Obama after the Ninth Circuit Court in all its wisdom mandated child separation from illegal alien parents caught at the border.

If you're going to blame Trump for family separations, you should also blame the disaster that was the Obama administration.

Are you a nazi for having voted for Obama and/or democrats that appointed the judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals?
That's not the reality. The Trump administration is making it's own rules and poisoning the game. The GOP doesn't want to own Trump's extreme zero tolerance immigration policy, so instead they're blaming someone else, the Dems.

https://www.politifact.com/texas/statem ... rder-tied/

So any and all previous court decisions or agreements, Ninth or otherwise, do NOT require children to be separated from their families. Trump is using that as a weapon of deterrence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... -children/
But none of these legal developments requires the Trump administration to separate children from their families. Instead, separations are rising in large part because of a “zero tolerance” policy implemented by Attorney General Jeff Sessions. In April, Sessions directed prosecutors to charge as many illegal entry offenses as possible.

Devin O’Malley, a Justice Department spokesman, said in the May 29 briefing that people charged with these offenses often are sentenced to time served and transferred to the Department of Homeland Security for deportation.

So, on one hand, the Flores settlement and the TVPRA require that children be released. On the other, Sessions’s zero-tolerance policy subjects any accompanying parents to criminal prosecution and eventual deportation.

But none of these legal developments requires the Trump administration to separate children from their families. Instead, separations are rising in large part because of a “zero tolerance” policy implemented by Attorney General Jeff Sessions. In April, Sessions directed prosecutors to charge as many illegal entry offenses as possible.

Laying this on Democrats does not track with reality. The TVPRA was signed by Bush, and the Flores settlement is a court-approved agreement, not a law. Nothing required the Trump administration to separate children from their families until Sessions’s zero-tolerance policy made it a practical necessity.
Oh, and HHS has lost track of almost 1500 children. So these kids have lost their parents, have probably been released to God knows where in the U.S. and are surely scarred for life after having been separated from their parents. These traumatized kids are now living in our communities and using our social structures that the U.S. taxpayer funds to support and the bill just went up. Thanks a lot Trump.
Nightshade wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:58 pm I can't stand you whiteboy leftists and your false sympathies for "brown people" like me.
And I can't stand whiteboy rightists that keep pushing for an all lily white America where people of color and other races don't fit.
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Tunnelcat wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:15 pm
Nightshade wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:58 pm I can't stand you whiteboy leftists and your false sympathies for "brown people" like me.
And I can't stand whiteboy rightists that keep pushing for an all lily white America where people of color and other races don't fit.
So I'm a "brown person" pushing myself out? Come on TC. Wake up.
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You're a self-hating "brown person," that's for goddamn sure.
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Nightshade wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:44 am
Tunnelcat wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:15 pm
Nightshade wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:58 pm I can't stand you whiteboy leftists and your false sympathies for "brown people" like me.
And I can't stand whiteboy rightists that keep pushing for an all lily white America where people of color and other races don't fit.
So I'm a "brown person" pushing myself out? Come on TC. Wake up.
Prove it. Post a non-x rated pic of some part of your body for all of us to see. It can't be tanned either because my arms are very dark right now just from working outside. Plus, I'm 3% Native American (Andean), so technically, I'm brown too. :wink:
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Tunnelcat wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:38 pm
Nightshade wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:44 am
So I'm a "brown person" pushing myself out? Come on TC. Wake up.
Prove it. Post a non-x rated pic of some part of your body for all of us to see. It can't be tanned either because my arms are very dark right now just from working outside. Plus, I'm 3% Native American (Andean), so technically, I'm brown too. :wink:
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Nightshade wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:16 pm :roll:
No doubt! What good is photographic evidence if you can’t see the “fun spot”? I mean, like, really...
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I don't know how top gun is circumventing the profanity filter, but I know that even though it needs to stop, he has full support from the administration of biased bullies here. 9_9

I'm shocked that Adam actually gave a sensible reply and he didn't say anything that was Kahn-Descent-ing or inane rambling about "whurkey burgers" and what not. 9_9

Sorry, Bunny, but I don't see what your original point is... and I don't buy into political tribalism.... and I'm not left wing >_>
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...you can turn off and on the filter as you so choose. I'm not circumventing ★■◆●. :mrgreen:
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In defense of Burlyman... the "C" word comes out loud and clear in the "Civility of the Left" thread even with my filter turned on. Is there something else I need to set?
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Guess whoever designed the filter never watched George Carlin. :P
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Lol @ whurkey burgers

That all started with the descent3 chat room I had turned on 24 hours a day for like a decade. There was a group of people on there that claimed to be like blue collar labor workers. I have nothing against people with jobs. They found out I worked at a financial institution and gave me the “I work for a living and you don’t. I’m a great American.” BS everyday. So I started to fire back - it’s only text, right?

With: “I’m sorry I’m not a brother at Local 532 Bolt Turners Union St Louis” and “I really respect your line of work. My father put in water lines in Minnesota for like 40 years. Do you know what must suck though? You have to work around other sweaty men ALL DAY LONG. The only attention you get from women is the look of horror when you’re wolf whistling and cat calling with your brothers on your lunch break. I much prefer working downtown with men and women. It’s nice to grab a bite or happy hour with the girls. It must be so tempting for you to work around all those strong sweating men in Wranglers all day. You must be tempted.”

Then that morphed into “Great American Turkey Whurkers Local 647” eating ghud hard American Whurkey turkey burgers. Because in a chat room to setup Descent 3 matches you use it to describe sandwiches and how hard you work everyday.

So, that’s where Whurkey burgers come from. It WOULD suck to only work around men all day. I need females around me just to remind me that I’m indeed sane. ; )~
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The great american turkey whurkers bit. I remember that - good times.
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Ferno wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:56 pm The great american turkey whurkers bit. I remember that - good times.
Well, as far as I’m concerned people who get together on an irc channel to convince the rest of the world (give or take 10 people) how wonderful they are because they go to work to pay their mortgage are kind of strange. It’s like; it’s not going to pay for itself, do you want a cookie, Bob? Good job, flipper! Here’s a gold star you good hard worker you. Whatcha having for snacks? How’s your conversational skills - because I’m drooling.

And that constant trying prove their patriotism and trying to make their existence out to be some goddamn John Cougar Melloncamp song was just nauseating. It was just non-stop. I could swear it was some of Bubba’s chatbots. I mean do we really have to have another parade to honor the great American brotherhood of pride and blah blah blah? It’s like the 8th one this year. Is this North Korea? Does the high school band and color guard from some farm town really have to perform again? Because they suck the diseased monkey snot out of my pleasure pump and whether or not I have to endure this bull★■◆● yet one more time is not going to change the fact that I’m an American citizen. I love my country, I just don’t need a fuckin parade twice a month to prove it. Give it a rest already.

And the guilt... the guilt! And the unsolicited resumes of these people. No one asked you and no one cares. So get off your computer, sex up that half literate opioid addict you married that day you got all gussied up with your feathered hair, impregnate the cow so you can pump out some more Dairy Queen employees that think they deserve a Great American parade in their honor or some ★■◆●... Gawd
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FlightRN2go wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:29 pm In defense of Burlyman... the "C" word comes out loud and clear in the "Civility of the Left" thread even with my filter turned on. Is there something else I need to set?
Yeah, I was gone for a couple of days when this one hit the fan and yes, I missed TG using it in that thread. It's been fixed, at least there. I've also asked Krom to add the "C" word to the swear filter.
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Couldn't you at least leave me a letter or something? We're all big boys and girls here.
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The "C" word is a hot potato right now TG. Even Samantha Bee got nailed for using it on her show to describe Ivanka Trump and even I agreed with her use of it in that case. If Krom adds it to the swear filter, anyone who dislikes it's use can turn on the filter. Anyone who doesn't care one whit can leave it off and then I don't have to resort to a virtual mouth soaping whenever someone complains about it. :wink:

Edit: I replaced the "C" word in your post with another TG. Use it sparingly. :wink:
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Make note everyone. The "C" word is now in the swear filter. So if it violates your sensibility, turn the swear filter on in your User Control Panel/ Board Preferences/Edit Display Options and tick the radio button for Enable Word Censoring.
Top Gun wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:23 pm Couldn't you at least leave me a letter or something? We're all big boys and girls here.
I returned your post to it's original glorious foulness, so those of you who don't want to see the "C" word, turn on your filter. :wink:
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Re: Guilt by association.

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Tunnelcat wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:38 pm Prove it. Post a non-x rated pic of some part of your body for all of us to see. It can't be tanned either because my arms are very dark right now just from working outside. Plus, I'm 3% Native American (Andean), so technically, I'm brown too. :wink:
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Re: Guilt by association.

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Come on TC, you know that in order for any of the pigment in his skin to show he would have to come out of his bunker/cave/safe room more than once a decade. :P
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