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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:45 pm
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I've receive several emails and some of those actual orders for Grendels 3D Pro Converter - Original Thread and webpage http://descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?t=7090 and http://grendel.koolbear.com/3dpro.htm
If there's enough interest I will see if I can get more made, but I won't do the all the work like Grendel did. I will take them to a shop so I am sure they will be slightly more than the units Grendel sold at cost.
(format borrowed from Grendels previous post)
So far the following people have units...
COMPLETE UNITS(various connector schemes)
[??] 2x KoolBear
[??] 2x Grendel
[??] 1x Bold Deceiver
[??] 2x Aus-Red-5
[??] 4x Munk
[??] 1x Wes Topping (by email)
[??] 1x Jan Dujardin (by email)
[??] 1x Punisher
[??] 1x Eathan (by email)
[??] 1x BUBBALOU
[??] 4x Sharpie
[??] 1x joker23
[??] 1x DigiJo
[??] 2x Merl
[??] 2x Joski (by email)
[??] 2x WillyP
[??] 2x Wyre
[??] 1x Fredster
[??] 2x lithum
[??] 1x Jack Duff(by email)
[??] 2x Modak
[??] 1x Genison
[??] 2x splintr
[??] 2x Cyker
[??] 2x Daffy
[??] 1x joeykork
[??] 1x 2fndtn
[??] 2x claancy
[??] 1x petem-j
[??] 1x Grax
[??] 2x Laria
[??] 1x Tony12
[??] 2x Lightnin
[??] 1x Mr.Rsm
[??] 2x dirt
[??] 2x JazzyJet
[??] 1x Mowgli
[??] 1x crazy328
[??] 1x FearlessRahul
[??] 1x Kurgan
[??]BARE BOARDS
[??] 5x KoolBear (if <$15)
[??] 15x Grendel (if <$15)
[??] 2x flip
[??] 5x Munk
[??] 1x Mowgli
Running Totals...
PCBAs <63>
PCBs - blank <28>
TOATAL BLANK BOARDS = 86! I will remove my extra bare boards and Grendel will most likely be willing to reduce his. This way everyone that wants a board should be able to get thiers.
[nn] is the serial no., color code is:
* interested want more info.
* unit(s) reserved
* bare board only
* unit built
* PM or email sent
* PM not picked up
* payment received
* unit shipped
* reservation expired
I will see if we can get more manuals printed too.
KB
{UPDATED - 5:15pm 07/07/25}
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Grendel DBB_Admiral

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Posted Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:31 pm
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I would like 2 You want to do it as-is or redesign it for SMD ?
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Aus-RED-5 DBB Admiral

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:36 am
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What price are we looking at this time?
I'd like to get in on this one!
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MD-2389 Defender of the Night

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:19 am
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| You might want to start fishing on kali. I know of atleast half a dozen people that want one.
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Bold Deceiver DBB Captain

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:23 am
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I've receive several emails and some of those actual orders for Grendels 3D Pro Converter http://descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?t=7090 and http://grendel.koolbear.com/3dpro.htm
If there's enough interest I will see if I can get more made, but I won't do the all the work like Grendel did. I will take them to a shop so I am sure they will be slightly more than the units Grendel sold at cost.
I am fishing at this moment. Spread the word!
(format borrowed from Grendels previous post)
So far the following people have reservations:
[60] 2x KoolBear
[nn] is the serial no., color code is:
* unit(s)reserved
* unit built
* PM or email sent
* PM not picked up
* payment received
* unit shipped
* reservation expired
I will see if we can get more manuals printed too, if there's need.
KB
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You can put me down for one, KB; if it happens. Thanks fer all you do!
BD
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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:14 am
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I would like 2 You want to do it as-is or redesign it for SMD?
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Grendel,
Did you have a preference? SMT (Surface Mount?)
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What price are we looking at this time?
I'd like to get in on this one!
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Aus-RED-5,
Interest Logged. Assuming part costs hasn't risen the only difference will be the cost of assembling the PCB's. I will see if I can get a commitment from the gentleman from work. Too bad he doesn't play Descent!
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You might want to start fishing on kali. I know of atleast half a dozen people that want one.
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MD,
I might do that but like Grendel I don't plan on making any money on these, and I have a full plate already. I was hoping the community would promote it by word of mouth.
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You can put me down for one, KB; if it happens. Thanks fer all you do!
BD
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Bold Deciever
Reservation Logged and you are welcome.
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Munk DBB Ace

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:00 pm
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| 2x for Munk ^^
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Aus-RED-5 DBB Admiral

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:18 pm
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Ok. Put me down for 2.
Thanks.
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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:25 pm
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| Munk and Aus-Red-5 logged
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flip DBB Captain

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:47 pm
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Any chance of just getting the boards? I've just assembled one on perfboard and it works like a charm. Would really like to have a couple extra boards to use up the extra parts I have here. Mainly for mounting one in my PC using the Frontx bay. That way I can plug my stick in the front and also move my 5.1 headphone inputs to the front also. If your not willing to let go of just 2 boards (and providing their not smt)
put me down for one for sure
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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:27 pm
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flip,
Bare Boards are a possibility. It'll depend on panelization and orders but if there a few extra board I think we can do that.
I'll mark it.
KB
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Grendel DBB_Admiral

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:27 pm
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| KoolBear wrote:
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| Grendel wrote:
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I would like 2 You want to do it as-is or redesign it for SMD?
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Grendel,
Did you have a preference? SMT (Surface Mount?)
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Most simple solution would be to go w/ what we already have. Going SMD would mean to redesign the board :/ Lets forget about that..
We need to come up w/ a plan to program the MCUs. I can do it if you send me the chips.
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Duper DBB Master

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:51 pm
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| how many components are on that? Is it worth it to do it by hand?
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punisher DBB DemiGod

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:52 pm
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| Put me down for one, please.
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Grendel DBB_Admiral

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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:27 pm
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how many components are on that? Is it worth it to do it by hand?
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I would say no. Took me about 2hrs each (inc. prepping), 24 parts, 107 solder points.
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flip DBB Captain

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:00 am
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No I would'nt do it by hand except that I had to buy the parts in bulk to build mine, so I went ahead and bought enough to do three. That being the case, it is more of a profit for me just to purchase boards. Also I enjoyed every aspect of building this board EXCEPT for the jumper wires. Whew that was taxing. Although the last one looked pretty good. With all that said, Having Production type PCB's would just be icing on the cake for me
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Munk DBB Ace

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:21 am
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Hey Koolbear, I've have a set of parts leftover to solder one board. (I love doing this by myself, gives good practise). Could you alter my Reservation into:
1x full Unit
5x bare board only
That would be really nice.
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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:05 am
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Added Punisher's Reservation
Updated Munk's request
Added Jan Dujardin Reservation (by email)
Grendel, I agree.
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Duper DBB Master

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:41 am
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I would say no. Took me about 2hrs each (inc. prepping), 24 parts, 107 solder points.
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Ouch, yeah and soldering the serial ports by hand is a *****. Depending on the ground plain, the IC's can suck too.
Yup, that's a wave flow job!
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BUBBALOU DBB Benefactor

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:46 pm
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| I could use another one, they ROXORS
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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:37 pm
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I could use another one, they ROXORS
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Logged ...
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Duper DBB Master

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:59 pm
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| lmao.. I love the pyro on the silk Grendel. Nice touch!
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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:04 pm
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MD-2389 Defender of the Night

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:13 pm
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MD,
I might do that but like Grendel I don't plan on making any money on these, and I have a full plate already. I was hoping the community would promote it by word of mouth.
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You also might want to talk to THC and have him edit the MOTD.
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Grendel DBB_Admiral

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:18 pm
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lmao.. I love the pyro on the silk Grendel. Nice touch!
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Kudos for that to KB, he did the layout incl. the silkscreen
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Sharpie DBB Cadet

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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:52 pm
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| I am interested in (2) 3d pro USB converters.
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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:54 pm
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Sharpie,
Logged
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joker23 DBB Cadet

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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:31 am
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I missed this the last time around, glad to see there is interest in a second batch.
I haven't been able to find a joystick that I like as much as my old 3D Pro. I have put up with all of the quirks trying to get it to run on faster hardware in Win 98 SE and Win XP Pro and it would be nice to finally have it working on USB.
I was going to try to build my own based on Grendel's plans, but I haven't done anything like that before and was afraid I'd mess it up.
Long sory short, put me down for 1 complete converter.
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KoolBear DBB Co-Founder

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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:40 am
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joker23 logged
Glad you joined us
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joker23 DBB Cadet

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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:17 am
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Thanks!
Glad to be here.
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