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KoolBear
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:44 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

I am going to get a sterolithography model made them I am going to attempt to make a silicone mold of it. Then maybe I can mold some for people that want a pyro model on thier desk Very Happy

I have two gallons of silicon molding compound.

I have a few quotes for a 6" at $200 or $370 if I get two (cheapest of 4 quotes). I am thinking I'll get two just incase one breaks in the mold Wink

I have a full size model I had sent off for quote. just shy of $30,000 Razz I guess they missed the point of re-scaling the model Very Happy
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:50 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

I wonder if you could get the one that was made for the D4 project converted somehow. It should be up for download on Planet Descent somewhere. I think it is by far the best looking Pyro GX model outside the D2/D3 cutscenes, tho it is a semi-low poly model for ingame use. Of course the GX would probably be a lot harder to mold then the GL.
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:00 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Krom,

I have that model too. Let's me see how it looks after exporting to stl format.

It's in OOF format. IS there a converter from OOF to 3d Max or Rhino or something like that? Man there's like 5 millin gazillon of them listed at PD.

Are one of those a GUI version.
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:56 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

If you can make a model of the GX, I'd prolly be willing to spend some of my summer earnings on it. That would definatly be something worth having.
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:06 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Krom,

I agree I get warm fuzzies all over when I see that model!
I did get one of the translators and it created a .3ds file but my demo version of 3dmax won't open it Sad, UPDATE but it will import Very Happy AHH that Hi-Rez D4 pyro must have been the Krentz model I followed. here's it imported re-textured thanks to Supersheep's MaxOOFy thingy. And EXPORTED to stl format.




Yes the hung over stabalizers on the GX would make molding more difficult. Maybe stand it on end. Now we need a good painter that can really do these justice!

d3jake,
will keep everyone informed, I just pulled off a big design job for my company and inturn they were awarded a large contract to build them. Hopefully I'll get a little bonus that I can make one of these models with.

I've never made a silcone mold but know what needs done. I am open to suggestions. I know I can use my son's legos to build the outer frame work, all I'll need to do is figure out where the parting lines run.

Anyone here have experience with home brewed silicone molds? Bubba?
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:07 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Why is it so expensive? I don't know anything about molding so be gentle.

Also, will it be painted or chromed etc?
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:11 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

No that is what it cost to make a model in 3d. Once that is done the individual models would cast in a silicon mold. These should cost too much at all. Of course they would not be painted Smile
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:06 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Yeah, the thing with that model is doing the stabilizers right is going to be a massive undertaking, and honestly I have my doubts it could be done in one piece. I think it would have to be broken down into a few smaller pieces and then assembled after molding, and I imagine that would skyrocket the price.
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:41 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

I would buy when I have the money, after I get my xbox360.
 
CDN_Merlin
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:43 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

I'd buy one or 2 myself depending on price.
 
KoolBear
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:00 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Does anyone know someone that would be willing to paint them? I am sure it would cost mosr for painting.
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:50 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

http://www.artmolds.com/category76.cfm getting it set up correctly is key. once the mold is created the rest is easy
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:19 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

http://www.interpro-rtc.com/


Stands 7" talls
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Grant it, it cost $550, but after talking to the guy, the results were outstanding. He said it felt very solid.
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:33 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Heh, wish I could have a mold of my Pyro that I'm modeling Razz But, that'd cost me.
 
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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:02 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

HighOctane_Jared wrote:
http://www.interpro-rtc.com/


Interesting I spoke with Dave there today Jarod, I had sesnt them a 20' sterolithography model and they quoted it just shy of $30,000 Very Happy

After I spoke with him I found out he's an old skool gamer too that's when he came back ith the $200 for a 6" model $370 for two in SLA the Objet option was like $400 or $760 for two.

Bubba has offered up his D2 "True to Movie Pyro" that I think I prefer since it's the closest to D2's pyro.

Jarod did you have a few hundred floating around that you care to share! Umm maybe I can get Zach on board and he'll spilt the cost with me!


KB
 
d3jake
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:38 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

True to movie Pyro..? Which one is that?
 
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:57 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

d3jake wrote:
True to movie Pyro..? Which one is that?

In the other thread below this thread. Razz

Here is what Bubba posted.

BUBBALOU wrote:
I have one you can use if need be, true to the D2 movies as far as detail
 
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:25 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

BUBBALOU wrote:
http://www.artmolds.com/category76.cfm getting it set up correctly is key. once the mold is created the rest is easy


True, beary true. I wonder how many castings we could get from one mold.

Like Krom stated this will likely be a few parts that are chemically welded together.

I couldn't imagine trying to vent this in a single mold.

It looks like we might have to "beef up" the guns so they woon't be so fragile. At 6" the barrel section is less than 1/32" Too small.

la8r
 
CDN_Merlin
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:55 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

If you used a 2 piece (top and bottom) mold wouldn't you be able to do it all at once without having to add to it after?
 
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:08 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Yeah Jared that Mudbox Model animation of the figure is nice ( Taken from )

no need to touch anything, just use the correct resin
 
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:18 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

hah sorry KB I am in full time school and working right now, I don't have spare anything right now...
 
d3jake
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:35 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

That's the model I'd like to have, the closer to the model in the D2 cinematics the better. Smile
 
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:37 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Bubbalou has sent me his model. I also want to look into Hextic's pyro.

Since these wouldn't be painted as the norm we should go for as much detail as possible.

KB
 
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:41 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Dang, if it wasn't so expensive I'd go for it, but with everything going on I'm strapped.
 
KoolBear
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Posted Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:34 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Capm, The castings from the stereolithography won't be too expensive not the original 3d model that is what will cost a few hundred dollrs. I was thinking that I might be able to do the castings myself. Now I haven't priced any material but I can't imagine they would be much more than 10-15 bucks or so plus shipping box packing material and postage.

I don't mind investing my time for something like this.

The expense comes in getting the original 3d model made.


So never fear for a small fee you too could have your very own unpainted pyro! Very Happy
 
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Posted Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:26 am  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Well, you figure out the price, and I'll pitch in for my share of the mold. This is to good of a toy to pass up.
 
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Posted Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:49 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

You should mold your 3dverter into it so you plug the sidewinder into underneath the front and the usb lead comes out the back.
 
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Posted Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:15 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

WillyP wrote:
You should mold your 3dverter into it so you plug the sidewinder into underneath the front and the usb lead comes out the back.


Good idea. It would be easy for me to do it. but would likely double the cost of the 1sr part.
 
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Posted Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:01 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Ok Here's the 3 models we have to select from
Bubba's

rendered...


Eagle's

and rendered...


Krentz's

rendered..



I have emailed Eagle and asked if he could make a bracket that attaches the missles as they are they are dangling in space.

I like all three. I think Eagles will make the better part for casting. This would be my preference.

Opinons. I should have pricing for individual casted parts Monday-Tuesday. I would like to place the order next Friday for the Sterolithogry Model and follow that possibly with and order for the silicone mold and several casted parts shortly after that. Here's some of thier work ... http://www.interpro-rtc.com/gallery.html The Female Figure represents the quality of the sterolithography (SLA) part, this is the part that the mold will be cast from.

I'll start a new thread when I receive the quotes for the mold and casted parts Monday/Tueday. Then we can get serious.

I also asked if they had painters, maybe some of you would like to get them painted. I'll try to not screw mine up to bad when I paint it Razz

KB
 
d3jake
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Posted Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:21 pm  View user's profile    Reply with quote  Send private message

Could we get a side view of Bubbalou's model, and Eagle's model, I want to look at the conc\conc mounting points.
 
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