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Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:21 am
by TigerRaptor
I can't help but feel Comcrap is going to abuse this.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... comments=1

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:09 pm
by vision
TigerRaptorFX wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:21 am I can't help but feel Comcrap is going to abuse this.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... comments=1
Almost certainly they will. However, I think part of the reason they are on-board with Mozilla's TRR program is because those users are bypassing one of Comcast's "services" by using a different DNS resolver. ISP's don't do a whole lot, and if something threatens to make even the slightest service irrelevant then they will fight to keep it alive.

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:10 pm
by Krom
The order my router is set to look up DNS through starts with quad 9, then opendns, then google, then cloudflare. I don't even pull my ISPs servers from DHCP.

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:11 pm
by vision
Krom wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:10 pmThe order my router is set to look up DNS through starts with quad 9, then opendns, then google, then cloudflare. I don't even pull my ISPs servers from DHCP.
Mine router set for OpenDNS then Couldflare. Never heard of Quad 9. What's the main advantage, in your opinion?

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:35 pm
by Krom
Redundancy, otherwise its pretty much just like OpenDNS in that they both filter malicious domains, I don't rate one better than the other.

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:59 pm
by Tunnelcat
Thanks for the heads up. I've got Comcast for a provider (no other choice if I want a decent speed) I and don't want them sniffing through my traffic either. This deal is only going to make the evil empire even bigger.

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:34 pm
by TigerRaptor
vision wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:09 pm Almost certainly they will. However, I think part of the reason they are on-board with Mozilla's TRR program is because those users are bypassing one of Comcast's "services" by using a different DNS resolver. ISP's don't do a whole lot, and if something threatens to make even the slightest service irrelevant then they will fight to keep it alive.
They’re going to have one hell of a fight on their hands. Hopefully it can be disabled through about:config. I would hate to lose Firefox, but there’s always Vivaldi, Brave, and many others.
Tunnelcat wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:59 pm Thanks for the heads up. I've got Comcast for a provider (no other choice if I want a decent speed) I and don't want them sniffing through my traffic either. This deal is only going to make the evil empire even bigger.
Anytime. Figured others here might want to read it.

Do you have WOWAY in your area? I had them as my ISP for while before I moved. They where a little slower than Comcast, but the pricing was much cheaper. Not sure where WOWWAY stands now.

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:21 am
by vision
TigerRaptorFX wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:34 pm I would hate to lose Firefox, but there’s always Vivaldi, Brave, and many others.
I was a FireFox fanboy since version 2.7, but last month I switched to Vivaldi because FF has just been stupid lately. I used to donate to Mozilla because of FF and Thunderbird, but they don't support Thunderbird anymore so I don't see any reason to support them anymore. I hate that I'm just using another Chrome variant, but whatever, I have stuff to do and FireFox's usability keeps getting worse.

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:55 am
by Tunnelcat
TigerRaptorFX wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:34 pm
Tunnelcat wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:59 pm Thanks for the heads up. I've got Comcast for a provider (no other choice if I want a decent speed) I and don't want them sniffing through my traffic either. This deal is only going to make the evil empire even bigger.
Anytime. Figured others here might want to read it.

Do you have WOWAY in your area? I had them as my ISP for while before I moved. They where a little slower than Comcast, but the pricing was much cheaper. Not sure where WOWWAY stands now.
No, I don't have WOWAY in my area. We do have a couple of others, but their speeds are not as good. CenturyLink DSL royally sucks since they don't maintain their equipment and it's always crashing. Plus they don't have anything in my neighborhood over 40Mbps. Comcast is giving me 170 Mbps download speeds, which is sufficient if I want to download a game. I also don't rent their modem or router, I bought my own, so I can easily do what Krom does if need be, which may be soon from the looks of this deal. I may change browsers now too. :roll:

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:56 pm
by Krom
I only use an insanely overpowered router that can go through a list of practically every DNS server one can find because I have gigabit fiber. If I was on ordinary cable at <200 mbps I wouldn't bother with something this extreme.

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:02 pm
by fliptw
the chromium based broswers are also adopting it DNS over HTTPS. it really should be opt-in

Re: Mozilla-Comcast deal. DNS over HTTPS

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:30 pm
by TigerRaptor
vision wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:21 am
I was a FireFox fanboy since version 2.7, but last month I switched to Vivaldi because FF has just been stupid lately. I used to donate to Mozilla because of FF and Thunderbird, but they don't support Thunderbird anymore so I don't see any reason to support them anymore. I hate that I'm just using another Chrome variant, but whatever, I have stuff to do and FireFox's usability keeps getting worse.
I'm starting to reach that point. If Mozilla doesn't get their act together soon, it's bye bye. I already deleted Firefox for Android since the new design is complete utter ★■◆●.