You're missing the point again. It is problematic for you to appeal to the consequences of not following God's dictates, because one of the things you need to demonstrate is why somebody should follow God's dictates solely by virtue that they are God's dictates. If you appeal to the consequences of ...

All his ways are just.

"Just" is another ethical term. Read my other posts as to why this is particularly problematic for your argument.

It is like a driver who decides he is not bound by traffic laws and speeds until he gets arrested.

Many Christians appeal to bad consequences of not ...

So then Lothatr if man doesn't receive a spirit at conception, the what does the Bible mean when it says \"to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord\"

Also why does Jesus indicate that a person must be \"born again of the spirit\"

You see this is the whole argument about abortion ...

Here's another way of laying out the tension. In order for a dictate of God to create ethical obligation, God must possess a certain authority. But what is the source of this authority? It can't be God's dictates, since he must already have authority to dictate his authority. So then it seems that ...

I see what you are saying and understand it. However what I am trying to say (forgive me for not being clear earlier) is that the moral and ethical system God set up I believe is based upon himself and his holiness and righteousness. This is who God is. God IS holy. It wasn't started from scratch at ...

Bettina I would like to ask you how aborting an innocent baby (albeit conceived by rape) is protecting the mother?

On a side note I read an article in our paper which had a 19 year old girl who was raped and had a baby giving her story about it. She indicated that she loved her baby and wouldn't ...

If God created us then he knows how we function best. Those who made engines will tell you that you need oil, but some stupidly might say it doesn't need oil and the head cracks.

Would a mechanic then know whether to balance an engine for performance or for efficiency? The decision to put oil ...

The problem is that the human race (generally) has decided that we can go it alone without a God or supreme being telling us what is right and wrong. Telling us there are absolutes. Without that being it all comes down to personal opinion and choice.

And isn't God a person too? Why should we ...

Moderator note: This thread was split from what's your take on abortions? by Lothar.

I am going to jump in right at the (end?) of this debate and say this. There are many things in life that are questionable in society regarding things like abortion. What about the legal age of consent for sex ...