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Sudanamaru

"Except that quantum physics very probably is real... all its predictions do happen."

I dont think so. It dont have an idea about electron, it can not predict its properties, also the neutrino and may the proton. It even dont understand magnetism and the electric field. Nor predict phenomenon about ...

Sudanamaru

Quantum Physics is worst than SF in measure to reality. Remind me the story of The Naked King.

Sudanamaru

Robo, this theory sounds good to me. Tearing is very apparent and the cause should be obviously a global event or process. I think mars was resurfaced by these catastrophic events, covered by thick layers of dust and debris. Asteroid belt could be remnant of collisions.

Sudanamaru

Lothar your points except 1 are relevant. But the conclusive votes result obtained require an visible reason that majority agree. Dont you think so?

Sudanamaru

Mobius,

"The fractal formation of the appearance of rocks means your poll is pointless. Rocks are rocks - and look the same on every planet/planetoid."

Please look to the first image carefully. There is something like a rope piece. For example if you looking for a rope piece in your yard, and see ...

Sudanamaru

:!: MARS!
http://origin.mars5.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/050/2P130797518ESF09BVP2563R1M1.HTML

Thank you for the poll and the opinions.

The purpose of the poll is what will be your response when you see an "dirty image" I think, which contains features which does appears in NASA published images ...

Sudanamaru

A larger frame from the same image. (still not the complete image)

Testiculese, I guess you would not vote Moon if you saw this first.

Sudanamaru

I assure this image frame taken from JPL NASA site. Guess its origin, Earth, Moon or Mars?

Sudanamaru

The suspicious "flowering thing" really only appears to be a small rock particle casting a shadow. For year, there was a lot of excitement over photos taken of Mars of possible "structures". We know where that led.

http://gravity.webhostme.com/mars/t_1m137504929eff2208p2936m2m1-flower.png

The ...

Sudanamaru

I spent lot of time on that, you may take a look.

http://gravity.webhostme.com/mars/

Scroll down for images.

Page 1 and 2 is full of full sized images (no thumbs yet), sevaral MB's in total do load.

Dont miss the "Venus" at page 3.

Sudanamaru

Some improvements over the "threadlike feature" - 3X zoom from Panaromic camera with color:

http://spherules.freewebpage.org/ucar/2P138883542EFF54CAP2267L2M1-256-SF1.png

The image http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/color/2-138883608-6.jpg show the whole frame.

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http://spherules.freewebpage.org ...

Sudanamaru

"Why would NASA cover this up? So there some fking strings on Mars... I don't get it..."

Some arguments:
- This mission is not about looking for current life form, but merely a geological research. they dont want to extend their programs for that.

- They dont want to be exposed to questions they ...

Sudanamaru

Mobius and all interested on this thread, see http://www.marslife.com/, article dated 4/23/4.
4/23/4 Thread-like Feature on Mars: Mystery Solved
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotlight/opportunity/
opp_200403a_Thread_on_Mars.html
The fault in their logic is that the filaments do appear in ...

Sudanamaru

"Uh, I am sure this lake is full of worms! :)"

Lothar, as you see the smile at end, I said it jokingly. The "worm"
was the core of the joke.

I am sory if this upset you and others.

About the lake, I did said "possible"

Even it could be a lake, it could be a lake of not water, or pure water. For ...

Sudanamaru

Mobius, please read then NASA comments on this:

"This image is causing us considerable difficulty due to the presence of a structure that
resembles a lake located in the center of the crater. "

Sudanamaru

Sorry String Ray, late answering about the funny thing. A close-up:
http://dinomantis.com/woolyduck/2P13596 ... y_duck.jpg

Sudanamaru

"Seriously man, you are seeing things that just aren;t there."

Mobius, it may be time for you change your monitor. :) I noticed daytime ambient light significantly reduce visibility of details on a monitor. May you look these image at night time.

Mr.Perfect said: "And this rules out the threads ...

Sudanamaru

All water/ice evaporation /sublimation calculations are based on ordinary water. For example cat urine does not evaporate completely, for months on room temperature. I mean a residual wet substance remain. I suspect the car antifreeze also considerably less evaporate than pure water, also salty ...

Sudanamaru

Because these lines traverse cracks on soil as a bridge. If they were simply traces or cracks, they will be discontinuous, bridging part could not exist.

I specially lightened these bridging sections in order the continuity over the soil crack be visible.

Note also small beads on the light colored ...

Sudanamaru

Topher wrote:
[quote="Sudanamaru"]
You can load the image to picture editor and increase brightness or gamma correction to see what I said resembling tide line[quote]

Mars' lack of a large moon makes me doubt that Mars has a tide...

(can lakes even have tides? I thought it was just oceans ...

Sudanamaru

Testiculese: "The swimming pool looking dark area is too dark to discern anything. Needs another shot in daylight. It sure woulnd't be liquid water, tho'."

You can load the image to picture editor and increase brightness or gamma correction to see what I said resembling tide line
http://orchestra ...

Sudanamaru

Topher wrote:
"...and why can't they just be cracks in the soil?"

See them in 3-D image. Everything look different.

You can simply open each picture in two separate small browser windows, side by side, and cross your eyes. If the 3D picture looks confusing, swap windows.

Sudanamaru

I intentionally placed the arrow a bit lower for not to interfere with the subject.

"btw, what dimensions is this picture? 1x1 meters? 100x100 millimeters?"

15 micron per pixel. That makes 7x6 mm overall.

Sudanamaru

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit_p108.html

Go there and get last two pictures. Notice the thing at the bottom.

Your suggestions?

BTW, see a possible lake at http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040422a.html

If you adjust dark tones, you can see the low tide shore line.

Uh, I am ...

Sudanamaru

For right eye:
http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/2m130169446eff0514p2943m2m1-crack.png

For left eye:
http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/2m130169205eff0514p2943m2m1-crack.png

You can see 3-D by putting images side by side and locking each eye to one picture (eye croosing, I do)

Yellow area ...

Sudanamaru

"You can't look at the image and claim there are threads when at the exact same time you say they are too thin to show up as a line so they show up as "dots".

No mean beads by saying "dots", not pixels. Black treads look like to aligned beads. See http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/shadowy ...

Sudanamaru

In my other posting in public forum vortex, I wrote:

"On my experience on Mars images, this specific filament appear unique and does not look like too much to other filament I spotted, therefore NASA scientists
conclusion could be acceptable on the airbag origin of this filament, but totally ...

Sudanamaru

the frame I posted is belong to image
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/019/1M129869847EFF0338P2953M2M1.JPG, enlarged 3 times.

Ok? What is significance of this image? This image become popular because it contain a "thread-like feature" just below the large ball on the upper right. Many ...

Sudanamaru

More specifically, look for something like cat hair on sand thinking the picture is a close-up

Sudanamaru

I have a question, later the argument: (this is serious)

Can you see some thread like things
on this picture? And how much they appears as real? (rate it by percent)

Sudanamaru

Programmer...of all sort. WEB, smart cards, microcontrollers, Windows applications, hacks, etc. Even one can find my real name on a AV encyclopaedia.

Sudanamaru

Sorry I did not described it origin. This image was taken my Opportunity microscopic imager in Sol 68 (latest images).

In turn, these potatoes like objects on soil are probably not stones but appears be evelopped in their places, because they are found also top of the sand depositions.

Meanwhile ...

Sudanamaru

Life on Mars on Merediani Planum may be typically can seen as
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/068/1M134219950EFF08AQP2956M2M1.JPG

Framed part here taken from topmost of original image show one of these white dot things from the profile on a dark background.

http://orchestra ...

Sudanamaru

Maybe 50% correct. The core is rock without to much doubt, but it is covered by something being not a rock. This glassy material is in blue color and opaque. (dark colored material in this photo).
It look like a frozen chemical solution. It may be deposited in a atmospheric process, having water ...

Sudanamaru

Mobius, I did not considered your post as a flame, it was indeed an attact to idea, not to person.

As I said earlier Mobius is right to criticise me on the sytle of the posting as presenting a possibility as a fact. But I thought this style would be funny.

On the other I would like to you see this ...

Sudanamaru

roid this is ..... ha..ha..ha
I could not stop myself from laughing!

Sudanamaru

Mobius, sure I know sublimation, but I guess sublimation rate should be quite low in cryogenic temperatures. If the sublimation process were too quick, comets had not be survived. A document I found (http://www.gatan.com/pdf/esem_application_note.pdf) state that matrix ice is extremely stable ...

Sudanamaru

correction:
http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/btatlim1.jpg
http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/btatlim2.jpg
http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/btatlim3.jpg

Sudanamaru

Yes, full pictures of her and his father and mother pictures are below. She is 3 years old now.

http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/btatlim1.jpg
http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/btatlim1.jpg
http://orchestra.webhostme.com/images/btatlim1.jpg
Father, Ash, unfortunetly died.
http://orchestra ...

Sudanamaru

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ ... _m079.html

The white big chunk of rock dubbed Mazatzal turned to a clear ice, once brushed. I guess Sprit wake-up song today is from Vanilla Ice

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